Macan Turbo vs F80 M3 - Evo Drag Battle

[kevinlevrone]

I wouldn't expect the Macan to lose so badly. That kind of difference is like an 100+hp difference on same-weight cars. The 600lbs weight difference plus the AWD drivetrain loss is hard to ignore. I would get an M3 instead of a Macan. I see no disadvantages in practicality. Macan would win at stoplights though

[Diver]

The proverbial apples and oranges comparo.

[ska///235i]

Whats next...a tricked out twin turbo short bus vs M4???

[Damasconian]

Originally Posted by CSanto

M4 is factory rated at 0-60mph in 3.9 sec DCT / 4.4 sec manual =(

I need to see a drag between these two stock vs stock before I make a decision.

This is incorrect. M4 6-MT does 60 in 4.1, per BMW and a bunch of other sites and magazines. Not sure where this faulty info came from. The DCT is great, but not .5 seconds to 60 great.

[Kayevman]

This is such a contrived comparison. Apples to oranges. Now we should test both over some gravel, dirt or rocks--the Porsche would prevail because it is an SUV.

[Ghetto2315]

Originally Posted by Damasconian

This is incorrect. M4 6-MT does 60 in 4.1, per BMW and a bunch of other sites and magazines. Not sure where this faulty info came from. The DCT is great, but not .5 seconds to 60 great.

This

[Needsdecaf]

Originally Posted by fdsjkl

Picking up my M4 in Oct, and my wife's Macan S in Dec.
First impression when test drove, cold start exhaust note in Macan S is way much better than lawn mover M4. I was a bit shocked by the exhaust to be honest. You can even hear the crack noise similar to M6 when changing gear in high rev.
It feels nothing like an SUV and has a very low centre gravity thanks to the low engine position. Body roll in that car is best in it's class, and that is the main reason I don't like SUVs.

No, actually it does feel like an SUV. I have driven an S with Air Suspension and PTV. We own a Cayenne and a GS FSport. The Macan still is closer to the Cayenne than the GS.

Very nice for an SUV. But still an SUV.

[Needsdecaf]

Originally Posted by Kayevman

This is such a contrived comparison. Apples to oranges. Now we should test both over some gravel, dirt or rocks--the Porsche would prevail because it is an SUV.

If you follow the series, you will note that this is not intended to be an apples to apples comparison. It's a weekly feature putting two cars that have vague similarities against each other.

Porsche claims the Macan is closer to a 911 than an SUV, so why not pit it against a sedan with similar power? As you can see, at least one person here cross shopped them.

[Eddien123]

Originally Posted by ska///235i

Whats next...a tricked out twin turbo short bus vs M4???

You say that as if the macan isn't a capable car.

[Nicvilla]

Someone found out the 1k time of 22.1 of the m3 is faster than the m5, e63 times?, also done by evo
Worth checking out
Good for the m3!!!

[ChiTownM]

Love it, something different than the typical and sometimes lame magazine comparos of similar cars or trucks.

[WAY]

I don't know why people are complaining. This is a fun little comparison. It's not intended to be a comparison to see which is the better car, it's just a fun little acceleration test!

[modkrazy]

Macan is a sweet car, will be adding it to the stable next month.

[///Mikey F80]

Originally Posted by JunkStory

I would flip a fkn table if the M4 lost.

Right? I know this isn't Steve Sutcliffe/Autocar putting an Alpina tuned 335d against and M3 and the Alpina coming out on top, but I was expecting something like that bias or rigging. Thankfully EVO knows what's up and in my opinion are the best online/magazine car reviewers out there as a whole. Chris Harris is still my favorite single reviewer though.

///Mikey

[gtr]

I know people say apples to oranges but I cross shopped these exact two cars along with the cayman GTS. Ended up ordering a M3 because I wanted a manual.

[WyattHerb]

Originally Posted by Needsdecaf

If you follow the series, you will note that this is not intended to be an apples to apples comparison. It's a weekly feature putting two cars that have vague similarities against each other.

Porsche claims the Macan is closer to a 911 than an SUV, so why not pit it against a sedan with similar power? As you can see, at least one person here cross shopped them.

Agreed. I personally love this stuff. It's not a competition but a comparison. I want to see everything matched against everything. What do these machines and the numbers they apply to them look like in real life when compared side by side? Love it.

[Danyutz]

What a pointless comparison.

[WAY]

Originally Posted by gtr

I know people say apples to oranges but I cross shopped these exact two cars along with the cayman GTS. Ended up ordering a M3 because I wanted a manual.

Actually so did I, as did another friend who ordered the M3 too in the end.

[Nicvilla]

maybe now EVO would do an M3/M4 vs M5, E63, M6 drag race to 1000 m
So far the best time is for the M3

[ska///235i]

Originally Posted by Eddien123

You say that as if the macan isn't a capable car.

Oh no I love the macan but reviews have gone nuts recently as they compare cars that have nothing in common

[Manbnda]

Capability is not only a matter of track performance. I don't know in your cities, but SUVs in my city are driven faster most of the time, because they are more capable to circulate on roads that are not in the best condition. What Porsche tried to do with the Macan is without a doubt interesting, I don't know yet at what degree they accomplished it, but a SUV that drives like (or close) a car is something premium brands should be aimed to offer.

That's a reason some people like me, are deciding whether to go for a M3/Cayman/Macan

[RON1X]

Originally Posted by gtr

I know people say apples to oranges but I cross shopped these exact two cars along with the cayman GTS. Ended up ordering a M3 because I wanted a manual.

You can get a Cayman GTS in a manual. Did you get to test drive one? Unfortunately no Cayman GTSs are around me yet...
I'm in the market soon to replace my 997, and I am cross shopping the new M4, new Cayman GTS, used 991 S. If the M4 wasn't so big I don't think I would think twice. Hilarious to say that, but after being in 911 it feels so much bigger.
The M4 is a beast for the money, but its hard to think I wouldn't have a 911 in the garage... I caught the Porsche bug unfortunately.

To get back on topic, the Macan Turbo will be my wife's next car so I can drive it. They look so good in person IMO