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      09-24-2013, 07:33 PM   #221
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I dig the the auto throttle blip for the 6-spd man.!
Really? Auto rev matching takes away a lot of the fun of having a pedal and a stick shift, IMO. In this case, I'd think it's better to just get the DCT.
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Wow so nice, but I think they forgot to mention how much helium it takes to keep the car light.
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Was really hoping for 450hp but this will do........ for now
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      09-24-2013, 07:40 PM   #224
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      09-24-2013, 07:44 PM   #225
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      09-24-2013, 07:46 PM   #228
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I wasn't excited for the new m3/m4 at all. I was expecting an overweight fat luxury vehicle with a moderately tuned n54... but now that I see the specs.... holy crap... It weighs less than a 135i!! Along with 400+HP, untuned?! Imagine this beast with a tune and FBO. I'm really hoping that this isn't maxed out already on everything. But even if it is, I won't mind..
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      09-24-2013, 07:46 PM   #229
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"The F80 M3 sedan and the F82 M4 coupe come armed with a powertrain that BMW enthusiasts know well but is a first for 3-series–based Ms: a twin-turbocharged, 3.0-liter inline-six. [...] Despite its similarity to the 1M’s N54 engine, both in concept and characteristics, this inline-six is an all-new, M-developed unit. [...] Compared to the previous M3’s naturally aspirated V8, the inline-six offers 74 additional lb-ft of torque, as well as 16 more horsepower for a total of 430. Will it raise your blood pressure if we point out that that the 1-series M made 1 more pound-foot of torque with its overboost function?"

"[C]orralled within the aluminum hood and front fenders lies an all-new, 3027cc twin-turbo inline-six that BMW promises will provide the instantaneous throttle response, linear power delivery, and stirring engine note of a high-revving naturally aspirated engine, and the stout, broad-as-Ayers-Rock torque curve of a turbo. And yes, it's an all-new engine, with an 89.6mm bore and 80.0mm stroke (the 335i measures 84.0 x 89.6, for 2979cc) that we're told will produce somewhere in the neighborhood of 430 hp and 370 lb-ft of torque. That's 25 percent more torque with a claimed 25 percent less fuel consumption. A choice of six-speed manual (with automatic rev-matching in Sport, but not Sport Plus mode) or seven-speed M Double Clutch Transmission (using the M5/M6's taller gearing) will route all that furious twist to the rear wheels."

...but also - as feared - the M3 and M4 got the "Active Sound Design" feature too (http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=588968 - http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=680384 [M5]| http://f20.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=786318 [M135i]):
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      09-24-2013, 07:47 PM   #230
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Really? Could have got a 370Z a long time ago as they offered 'synchro rev match'

As others have stated hopefully it can be set to default "off".
Motortrend: "automatic rev-matching in Sport, but not Sport Plus mode"
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      09-24-2013, 07:49 PM   #231
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Personally think to 60 will be tough to break 3.7s due to tire size/grip vs low end torque, but 12 flat in 1/4-mile seems about right. Will be interesting when some of the guys run the CarTest software info using some gear ratio assumptions.

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Here is my 0-60 speculation. With the M5 the competition package adds 15hp and BMW claims it shaved 0.1s off the 0-60 run. That's 15hp over 560 of the same.

On the 335i PPK BMW claims the 20 additional horses are good for 0.2s off the 0-60 run and this has largely been proven to be true.

I assume with 100hp over the 335i with PPK the 0-60 run should be shortened by 1s, to 3.4s. Quarter should be about 12s flat as the 335i with PPK is good for 13s flat.

Given the E92 M3 is good for 3.9 and 12.8 I think the numbers I derived are within reason given the extra tq less weight on the new M. In addition the new M will EASILY put at least a 1s buffer between it and any ambitious 335i.

Let's see how it plays out
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      09-24-2013, 07:54 PM   #232
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      09-24-2013, 07:55 PM   #233
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What is meant by "indirect intercooler"? It appears the intercooler is tucked in the engine bay near (or on top of) the engine cover/intake manifold. On the surface, it's hard to imagine a worse place for an intercooler than inside a hot engine bay, as compared to, for example, one of the front grilles (typically the lower most center grille).

Anyone have any more information on the intercooling? Without effective intercooling, this thing would heat soak like a mofo.
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      09-24-2013, 07:56 PM   #234
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Nope. I'll take a high-revving V8 over a FI 6. I don't care if it's a little faster. Still going to be an awesome car.

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      09-24-2013, 07:57 PM   #235
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I just sold a E92 m3 and eventually settled on the P85 Tesla...but man, I'm thinking of going back as I miss the shifting and exhaust music. Can't wait to test drive this bad boy.
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      09-24-2013, 07:59 PM   #236
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About the weight quote.

The quoted 3300 lbs is with a 90 per cent full tank of gas, but no driver.
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      09-24-2013, 07:59 PM   #237
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Great. It has 'Active Sound Enhancement' like the M5/6.
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      09-24-2013, 08:00 PM   #238
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Personally think to 60 will be tough to break 3.7s due to tire size/grip vs low end torque, but 12 flat in 1/4-mile seems about right. Will be interesting when some of the guys run the CarTest software info using some gear ratio assumptions.

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Here is my 0-60 speculation. With the M5 the competition package adds 15hp and BMW claims it shaved 0.1s off the 0-60 run. That's 15hp over 560 of the same.

On the 335i PPK BMW claims the 20 additional horses are good for 0.2s off the 0-60 run and this has largely been proven to be true.

I assume with 100hp over the 335i with PPK the 0-60 run should be shortened by 1s, to 3.4s. Quarter should be about 12s flat as the 335i with PPK is good for 13s flat.

Given the E92 M3 is good for 3.9 and 12.8 I think the numbers I derived are within reason given the extra tq less weight on the new M. In addition the new M will EASILY put at least a 1s buffer between it and any ambitious 335i.

Let's see how it plays out
Agreed those models will be better than my rudimentary assumptions here

Launch control may help with the 60 run
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      09-24-2013, 08:04 PM   #240
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The quoted 3300 lbs is with a 90 per cent full tank of gas, but no driver.
So on the scales that will make it ~250 lbs lighter than an MT equipped E92 with a CF roof? Not bad. Not bad at all.
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We took a ride with Bruno Spengler in the prototype and have an on-board video which I'll be posting soon. Great sounds from inside the cabin.
Thanks for the awesome data filled updates. I'm still hoping that they won't use Active Sound.
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add in two passengers and their luggage and you will be at 3800!

holy Apples and Oranges batman! you sir, *should* feel shame...

You do realize I was referring to the standard curb weight measurement - you know the one BMW uses on their web site for all their cars.
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