Official BMW M3 and M4 Competition Package Details, Pricing and Photos

[csbear]

Originally Posted by jphughan

If you subtract the cost of adaptive suspension and a wheel upgrade from this package, it comes down to ~$3300 (depending on what you assume the wheels would cost as a standalone option). A good set of coilovers alone can cost that, and that's before springs, dampers, roll bars, installation of everything, and the potentially enormous amount of time and money spent going through trial and error to adjust all of that to work harmoniously. And even at the end of that you still don't have an active suspension, which is a wonderful thing for both performance and comfort separately but particularly in how well it can serve double duty. And that assumes you don't care about anything else in this package, like the different diff and DSC software, seats, etc.

Precisely... Cohesiveness is not something to overlook. This is BMW trying to improve on their own car, not some third-party. Technically, the performance numbers are what people are mostly questioning, but honestly, this package is offering a decent amount for its price. $5500 is about the same just to get individual paint if I'm not mistaken. That's a purely aesthetic option! Ferrari Red isn't making the car a Ferrari. And you can even consider the Comp Pkg an individualization option by itself. There will be less F8x on the road with the Comp Pkg than with Individual paint (I'm thinking). Although, I wonder how the rims would have looked like in a gunmetal or black though?

You can have a fully loaded, Competition Packaged M4/M3 for less than the base price of a GT4. That's still a good deal and something I would have seriously considered before I got my GT4.

Regardless, the F8X is a great car even without the package, but if someone was on the fence, I'd say, "go for it!"

[KevinM]

For me the success of this package will depend on if it changes how the car puts its power down. If it helps traction and increases handling predictability it will be worth it. Like many, I'm not a fan of the wheels but I'm sure I would warm up to them.

[SakhirM4]

Originally Posted by jphughan

The suspension changes can make for a different feel that some customers might prefer even if they wouldn't be able to go any faster with it, but yes you'd probably need to be a very good driver to be markedly faster. But a significant percentage of M car owners tragically never even bother to go to a track in the first place, and even the non-Comp M cars have more than enough performance for the road, so even if the performance improvements were noticeable to even a novice on track, they would still be moot for most customers. But obviously there's still a market for more go-fast bits!

There are many reasons why M owners do not go to the track and "bother" is a harsh value judgment. Not tragically, some M owners have very valid reasons. Doesn't mean that they should not own an M as so many in here have said.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by SakhirM4

There a many reasons why M owners do not go to the track and bother is a harsh value judgment. Not tragically, some M owners have very valid reasons. Doesn't mean that they should not own an M as so many in here have said.

[Hazey82]

I recently ordered my F80. I'm not fussed about this comp pack given the standard one already has seats, CF bits and plenty of power. And not a fan of the wheels or cutouts in the seats.

Maybe look into recoding the M diff and dsc if it's not hardware specific ie comp suspension.

[Jashan]

That e92 throwback picture tho
And y'all bitching about rims but majority of the people here end up changing em or coating them regardless �

[AlpineE92M3]

Do the springs add a drop to the ride height like the E9X ZCP had a 10mm drop? Can't tell by the pictures, but I think it will be lower than a stock F8X suspension. The wheels are bigger, I wonder if they gave it a drop. Thoughts?

[mc3456]

To me, it is a very good value. Pity they didn't include MPE, CF rear diffuser, CF splitters, and front lip for a slightly higher price ($8,959).

[jphughan]

Originally Posted by AlpineE92M3

Do the springs add a drop to the ride height like the E9X ZCP had a 10mm drop? Can't tell by the pictures, but I think it will be lower than a stock F8X suspension. The wheels are bigger, I wonder if they gave it a drop. Thoughts?

The extra wheel diameter can be cancelled out by a smaller tire aspect to maintain overall diameter. That's what BMW normally does with tires when upgrading from base wheels to the optional +1" wheels in a given model, but this is the first model where 3 wheel sizes will be available from the factory. Still, I think if there were a drop it would have been part of this official announcement. It was for the E9x's ZCP.

[pikkagtr]

wonder if i can buy the seatbelts?

[Powerslide]

When you stop and think that the new wheels are already included (which, whether you like them or not, avoids you from having to pay the $1,200.00 for upgrading to the style 437 19" wheels) and the M Adaptive Suspension is already included (normally a $1,000.00 upgrade) - that is $2,200.00 in upgrades that probably most people pay anyway on non-CP M3/M4's - which in turn makes the remaining CP features come out to $3,300.00 - a much more compelling value proposition...

I agree with the posts above - if the overall effect of the CP in terms of driving dynamics, putting power to the ground, etc. is "greater than the sum of its individual parts," well then this CP could really be the best CP value ever offered by the M Division (in terms of what you get per dollar - which already works out much better than the ZCP for the E9x generation).

Will be curious to see the difference in lap times for CP vs. non-CP equipped cars...

[jphughan]

Originally Posted by SakhirM4

There a many reasons why M owners do not go to the track and bother is a harsh value judgment. Not tragically, some M owners have very valid reasons. Doesn't mean that they should not own an M as so many in here have said.

Not sure what the "and bother is a harsh value judgment" phrase means, but I personally have never said that people who don't track shouldn't own M cars. People can spend their money however they choose, so if someone wants to buy an M car and never go near a track or someone else wants to buy a Ferrari to use only for picking up supermodels for dates and guaranteeing the valet spot right in front of the expensive restaurant they visit, then who am I to judge how "worthy" an expenditure that is? What I HAVE said is that M cars are vastly more capable than can be fully exploited on public roads and that therefore people who own M cars and don't track them are closing themselves off from experiencing a significant chunk of their car's potential and fun value and fully appreciating just how remarkable these cars are. That should all be obvious. I just consider it unfortunate (maybe tragic was too harsh) because these cars truly are incredible on track and so many owners don't even know what they're missing and how much more fun they could get for the money they spent on their car -- and they could easily get a taste by simply attending as a spectator and catching rides.

I've also said to people asking for advice deciding between an M car vs a series car (possibly with mods to the latter) that if all that person will be doing is driving on city streets and freeways, with no track time and not even any meaningful amount of time on fun back roads, then while an M car is still more fun than the series car even in that mundane commuting type of driving, in my opinion it isn't more fun by an amount that justifies its much higher total cost of ownership if that's the only way the car will be experienced. Of course the value of a given amount of money will vary from person to person, but generally people asking whether to spring for an M car or stick to a base series car aren't the ones for whom cost is no object.

[VitaminTee]

I suppose I would buy it, as others have pointed out, it's only $3,300 if you were already going to upgrade your wheels and get adaptive suspension.

That said, I'm not disappointed that I didn't wait for this. I'll probably check the box when my lease is up - why not, gives me something to look forward to!

[BoosTonian]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

Don't confuse your numbers (0-60mph vs 0-100km/h). According to BMW 0-100km/h for DCT cars:

Base M3/4 = 4.1 seconds
M3/4 CP = 4.0 seconds
M4 GTS = 3.8 seconds

So the GTS is still 0.2 seconds quicker to 100km/h. And it has 49hp/50ps more than the CP, not 56.

The release statement from BMW (above) says dct w/comp. f8x is 0-60 in 3.8...the gts release statement says 3.8 0-60.

The release brochure and press release says 500hp. 500-444=56

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I'm just using the release statements and brochures provided by BMW. Some sites say the gts is 493hp..but some articles say the f80 has 430hp. All underrated numbers anyway. Just curious that's all. Gts is still superior in almost every way, just happy to see the comp pkg come out and actually improve several parts of the car

[minn19]

Originally Posted by jphughan

The extra wheel diameter can be cancelled out by a smaller tire aspect to maintain overall diameter. That's what BMW normally does with tires when upgrading from base wheels to the optional +1" wheels in a given model, but this is the first model where 3 wheel sizes will be available from the factory. Still, I think if there were a drop it would have been part of this official announcement. It was for the E9x's ZCP.

The F30 had/has 18,19 and 20 inch factory options.

[damnitBobby]

hmm the whole design just doesn't flow with those wheels.. looks odd.

Alfa Romeo's Giulia may very well put the smack down on this car.

[jphughan]

Originally Posted by minn19

The F30 had/has 18,19 and 20 inch factory options.

Interesting, didn't know that. I don't follow the regular series cars very closely, but thanks! Do you know the aspects of the tires on those sizes? That might give a clue as to what BMW will do here.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by damnitBobby

hmm the whole design just doesn't flow with those wheels.. looks odd.

Alfa Romeo's Giulia may very well put the smack down on this car.

The wheels are just too busy/fussy.

[IB M]

My dream ZCP would have been combo of suspension tweaks as presented here, MPE, updated 359 y-style 19" wheel design, one unique paint color, M-Alcantara on standard seats and GTS water injection / HP.

[TTG]

Finally Facts!

I will check the box just for the seats, seat belts and suspension updates alone.

Wheels can always be swapped out later.

This is a no brainier and I am glad I waited. Especially for those of us who don't like to mod the engine / suspension.

[minn19]

Originally Posted by jphughan

Interesting, didn't know that. I don't follow the regular series cars very closely, but thanks! Do you know the aspects of the tires on those sizes? That might give a clue as to what BMW will do here.

I don't, the only reason I knew about them is because I saw a 335 like my old one on the show floor equipped with them and looked them up. IIRC they were $4500, so from that angle, $5500 for everything going on here does make it look like a decent deal.

Edit: FYI, just checked out getbmwparts and they have 4-5 different 20 inch choices from $3495.

[damnitBobby]

Originally Posted by gblansten

The wheels are just too busy/fussy.

And the wheels have no concavity which is taking away from the low and wide design of the M4. Hell the 20" wheels are probably making the M4 sit even higher, which is making it even more awkward.