Will the M3 CS hold its value?

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by ndukyh

Less practical version of M3 not available with a manual. Two features that make the M3 so great. I love the looks but can't get behind the car overall. I'm sure it'll hold some value for being a special model but not super different from a "normal" M3 maintained well

Why is it less practical ?

[duky]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

Why is it less practical ?

No center storage

[JibSTir13]

Buying a car with appreciation or minimal depreciation in mind is a futile exercise, especially if the car is actually driven or tracked.

There are outliers, but those are typically unicorns in the realm of hyper-cars.

IMO, get the car you want, drive it the way you want, and accept that it is a depreciating asset.

If the model you pick happens to garner fan craze later in time and doesn't depreciate much (or even appreciates), that's really just the cherry on top.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by ndukyh

No center storage

Yes, that's a killer

[dongerkim]

Originally Posted by JibSTir13

Buying a car with appreciation or minimal depreciation in mind is a futile exercise, especially if the car is actually driven or tracked.

There are outliers, but those are typically unicorns in the realm of hyper-cars.

IMO, get the car you want, drive it the way you want, and accept that it is a depreciating asset.

If the model you pick happens to garner fan craze later in time and doesn't depreciate much (or even appreciates), that's really just the cherry on top.

I couldn’t agree more. Although no one knows for certain, if you’re mindful about the market and have a good idea when prices bottom out or hold their value quite wel from brand new due to supply limitations, you may not experience too much depreciation. I’ve been lucky enough to just so happen to own some of these cars. From pos civics that were at the bottom of its price, to cool cars like the s2000 and e46 m3. I was even able to walk out of a brand new MY16 F80 after just one year/while being over my miles all mainly because it was a manual/stripper.

Moral of the story, always buy a manual!

[IM2C]

When G80 comes out...

[Flacht3]

Didn't read the whole thread but the answer is "no".

Very few cars hold their value these days. Look at the sentiment towards the GTS before release and people paying ADMs and now they can be had well under MSRP. Even P cars are being hit with reality (on a lesser scale) and you can now have a 991.1 GT3RS at MSRP (used obviously) and the 991.1 GT3 below.

Bottom line...don't buy for value or expect it to hold value. Buy because you want it and will drive it.

[mwhalley]

Originally Posted by SocalBM

Umm...no: 997.1 GT3rs. 997.2 GT3rs. 997.2 4liter GT3rs. 997 Speedster, Carrera GT. To name a scant few. There are many more.

But, those were not mass-market cars like the M3 and they were "end of an era" vehicles.

Indeed, there are hundreds!

Has this person never heard of a Ferrari 250 California!?

And the e46 CSL is now £60k+ with mileages in excess of 30k any lower thank 20k and your looking £80k

I don’t think current CS will turn “classic” though

[Phatcat]

Originally Posted by paliknight

Agreed. Maybe 20-30 years from now when M cars are no longer manual (M3's and 4's) the CS will be very desirable. But I think the CS is DCT only.

Maybe only if you don't drive it. There is a huge price difference between high mileage E39 M5 and very low mileage. If the CS is going to be your daily driver, I wouldn't hold my hopes up.

[Damage Inc]

Originally Posted by M2COMPHAMILTON

Hi All I have an opportunity to order a M3 CS and was interested to see what everyone thinks about resale value. Because the car is limited will it hold its value better than a regular M3?

It will always be worth more than a regular M3. However as a depreciation % from MSRP it will depreciate faster than a normal M3.

Since the underlying F80 M platform has not been a major hit, then the "special" cars will not do so well either. Look at the GTS, major miss. The CS is a comp pack with a few updates.

What's special about it? No manual. No N/A motor. Nothing to differentiate against cars at $100k. BMW's arrogance is their downfall. Look at their lack of effort into the CS in exchange for the high cost, its like buyers are blind since there is an "M" badge on the cars. BMW has milked the M badge to the point its no longer what it used to be.

The CS looks to be a cool car for what it is. Would be happy to drive one around. but resale will not be pretty.

[FC]

Originally Posted by Damage Inc

It will always be worth more than a regular M3. However as a depreciation % from MSRP it will depreciate faster than a normal M3.

Since the underlying F80 M platform has not been a major hit, then the "special" cars will not do so well either. Look at the GTS, major miss. The CS is a comp pack with a few updates.

What's special about it? No manual. No N/A motor. Nothing to differentiate against cars at $100k. BMW's arrogance is their downfall. Look at their lack of effort into the CS in exchange for the high cost, its like buyers are blind since there is an "M" badge on the cars. BMW has milked the M badge to the point its no longer what it used to be.

The CS looks to be a cool car for what it is. Would be happy to drive one around. but resale will not be pretty.

I was paying for my F80 a couple of days ago and the finance guy mentioned the black GTS being prepped for delivery and how the dealership lost $38K. They sold it for $87k after it sat for over a year unsold.

[Brasko]

Originally Posted by duky

No center storage

Funny, because I'd happily trade my CP center console for a CS center console.

[AhsanU]

There are few cars that appreciate in value and/or hold value being made right now. They're mostly exotics, and even then, there are a few exotic OEM's that can't get their cars to hold value (ahem, McLaren).

A "limited edition" car that shares a vast majority of its components with a mass produced car, I.E. any variant of the F8X M3/M4, will not appreciate in value. I absolutely laughed at people that bought the M4 GTS thinking it'd appreciate or hold its value. The M3 CS, no matter how amazing it is, is slated for the same fate.

[Wills2]

We still have M4CS in the UK dealers being offered at 75k even for ones with ceramics that listed at close to 100k, I wonder if the M3CS will be more popular.

[IB M]

I wonder if options and color will effect resale on the M3CS???

If strippers are more desirable for track and long term collectors then maybe Exec Pack will hurt Long Term Value but not sure cause u give up HUD and adaptive lights.

CCBs probably help LTV because they will not be on all CS cars.

Lastly color - not sure but AW always does well long term and shows off the carbon parts. Black is sinister and bad ass but carbon parts get lost. SMB is stunning. I'm not sure if LR Gray and Frozen Blue will do well as they may be fads that don't age well or they may be the one to have given the $5k premium.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by IB M

I wonder if options and color will effect resale on the M3CS???

If strippers are more desirable for track and long term collectors then maybe Exec Pack will hurt Long Term Value but not sure cause u give up HUD and adaptive lights.

CCBs probably help LTV because they will not be on all CS cars.

Lastly color - not sure but AW always does well long term and shows off the carbon parts. Black is sinister and bad ass but carbon parts get lost. SMB is stunning. I'm not sure if LR Gray and Frozen Blue will do well as they may be fads that don't age well or they may be the one to have given the $5k premium.

Don’t forget LRG is exclusive to the CS (at least for now).

[IB M]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

Don't forget LRG is exclusive to the CS (at least for now).

Good point

What's ur thought on Exec pack? I'd want to have HUD but hate the rear door manual roll up sun shades.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by IB M

Good point

What's ur thought on Exec pack? I'd want to have HUD but hate the rear door manual roll up sun shades.

I really haven’t thought about it much because there is no “exec pack” in Canada. We get the CS pretty much “loaded”, albeit without the rear sunblinds on the M3 CS.

I’d say the only deterrent to the exec pack are the sunblinds in the rear. However, you need the exec pack to get the new icon LCI headlight, which contribute to the overall aggressive look of the CS. HUD, PDC and and speed limit info are also practical features to have. So if I were in the US, I would likely get the exec pack despite the rear sunblinds.

[Wills2]

Demo mileage M4CS are now in the trade at 63k and retailing at dealers starting at 68k, the market hasn't been kind to these cars in the UK.

[IB M]

Originally Posted by Wills2

Demo mileage M4CS are now in the trade at 63k and retailing at dealers starting at 68k, the market hasn't been kind to these cars in the UK.

Sterling so at 1:1.28 dollars ur talking

$83k ish trade and $87k retail on over $100k new

[chrispraeger]

It depends...
In Europe for example the M3CS was BMW M's last car without special GPF (Gasoline Particle Filter) and it was the lase M Car homologated with the "old" (louder) noise Emission Levels.

The M3CS overall is certainly very expensive.
But it is definetly a special and limited Modell.
Not yet, but in 5 or 6 years, you will still have a valuable car.
You will not have a car with a higher value - but if it is in good condition, you will make a good deal.

To draw a line:
Unfortunately since the M4GTS we all know that a limited car should be driven today.
You will not get a higher value only by buing and putting the car into a Garage.
Of course, there are some exceptions, but not in the Portfolio of BMW.

[Wills2]

Originally Posted by Wills2

Demo mileage M4CS are now in the trade at 63k and retailing at dealers starting at 68k, the market hasn't been kind to these cars in the UK.

Originally Posted by IB M

Sterling so at 1:1.28 dollars ur talking

$83k ish trade and $87k retail on over $100k new

It doesn't work like that cars are priced differently in the US and the exchange rate varies.

At the time of launch if you want to try and compare the dollar was 1.4 the M4CS was 90k sterling or $126,000 dollars keep the same exchange rate and that gives you $88,200 so a drop of circa $40,000 dollars.

But it's better not to convert for the reasons stated.