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      03-28-2018, 12:09 AM   #67
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The best part of this thread is that almost everyone has used the words "brake" and "break" correctly
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I use parking brake without DCT. Save the manuals!!!
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I had similar dealer feedback about the parking brake. At the end of the day, if the tranny breaks, warranty covers it. Not a big deal.
And what happens when the car is out of warranty? Not everyone leases every three years.

Extending your logic, why bother avoiding hitting other cars? Insurance will cover it. Not a big deal.

Might as well leave the doors to the house unlocked and the garage door closed when I'm away. After all, insurance will cover it. Not a big deal.

Why bother to look both ways when crossing a street? If I get hit, insurance will cover it. Not a big deal.

That's just the stupidest logic I've ever heard.
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Why do you think the parking brake is there ? To be used when you park the car , as simple as that
Duh...for doing handbrake turns.

Long live manual handbrakes!
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And what happens when the car is out of warranty? Not everyone leases every three years.

Extending your logic, why bother avoiding hitting other cars? Insurance will cover it. Not a big deal.

Might as well leave the doors to the house unlocked and the garage door closed when I'm away. After all, insurance will cover it. Not a big deal.

Why bother to look both ways when crossing a street? If I get hit, insurance will cover it. Not a big deal.

That's just the stupidest logic I've ever heard.
- I never lease or keep a vehicle beyond warranty/maintenance period.
- Something breaks, manufacturer repairs vehicle at no cost during warranty.
- It is just a car.
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I'd rather put the pressure of the vehicle weight on the parking brake than on the transmission.

Just saying.

And I don't let go of the brake until I already have the parking brake engaged so that it rests completely on the brake.
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- I never lease or keep a vehicle beyond warranty/maintenance period.
- Something breaks, manufacturer repairs vehicle at no cost during warranty.
- It is just a car.
Sound like a good candidate to lease.
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- I never lease or keep a vehicle beyond warranty/maintenance period.
- Something breaks, manufacturer repairs vehicle at no cost during warranty.
- It is just a car.
is it possible for us to know the VINs of the cars you turn in so we know not to buy them?
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And what happens when the car is out of warranty? Not everyone leases every three years.

Extending your logic, why bother avoiding hitting other cars? Insurance will cover it. Not a big deal.

Might as well leave the doors to the house unlocked and the garage door closed when I'm away. After all, insurance will cover it. Not a big deal.

Why bother to look both ways when crossing a street? If I get hit, insurance will cover it. Not a big deal.

That's just the stupidest logic I've ever heard.
- I never lease or keep a vehicle beyond warranty/maintenance period.
- Something breaks, manufacturer repairs vehicle at no cost during warranty.
- It is just a car.
Time is money ... the hassle of bringing the car in for warranty and waiting for the repair is not worth for one simple pull each time
.... I don't get this logic
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Time is money ... the hassle of bringing the car in for warranty and waiting for the repair is not worth for one simple pull each time
.... I don't get this logic
Some people are just "contrarians" They go against common sense "just because"
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is it possible for us to know the VINs of the cars you turn in so we know not to buy them?
I do not trade in cars. I usually give the 1-2 year old BMW to my daughter and I go buy my wife a new car.
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I do not trade in cars. I usually give the 1-2 year old BMW to my daughter and I go buy my wife a new car.
Nothing you say at this point is going to justify your logic in not using the parking brake.
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I dont understand why everyone thinks they will cause damage to the DCT transmission by parking it in gear. If your car cant handle to sit still with the weight of the car held by the transmission, how the hell can your transmission handle 400+ lb/ft of torque on every component in it?

Also... if you clamp your ebrake on the rotor after driving, how do you think the rotor cools? unevenly thats how. That can lead to warped rotors. So use the transmission park as the vehicle is designed for, and leave the 'parking' brake also known as the emergency brake for emergencies..
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OK we’ve cycled through the same points and people not reading the thread enough times. Time to unsubscribe.
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I dont understand why everyone thinks they will cause damage to the DCT transmission by parking it in gear. If your car cant handle to sit still with the weight of the car held by the transmission, how the hell can your transmission handle 400+ lb/ft of torque on every component in it?

Also... if you clamp your ebrake on the rotor after driving, how do you think the rotor cools? unevenly thats how. That can lead to warped rotors. So use the transmission park as the vehicle is designed for, and leave the 'parking' brake also known as the emergency brake for emergencies..


It is not the gears that hold the transmission in park. The transmission is locked using a parking pawl on the output shaft which is designed for much lower loads than what the transmission can handle under all out acceleration. Using the parking pawl exclusively without the parking brake will progressively wear the pawl mechanism and will have it have more and more slack. There is a reason why BMW specifically recommend using the parking brake in the owner’s manual.

The parking brake on the F8X does not clamp the main discs, so it has no effect on “cooling” as you say. Further, clamped hot brakes may leave pad imprints, but will not warp the rotors.

Do some research before making misinformed posts...
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It is not the gears that hold the transmission in park. The transmission is locked using a parking pawl on the output shaft which is designed for much lower loads than what the transmission can handle under all out acceleration. Using the parking pawl exclusively without the parking brake will progressively wear the pawl mechanism and will have it have more and more slack. There is a reason why BMW specifically recommend using the parking brake in the owner’s manual.

The parking brake on the F8X does not clamp the main discs, so it has no effect on “cooling” as you say. Further, clamped hot brakes may leave pad imprints, but will not warp the rotors.

Do some research before making misinformed posts...
Sums it up in a nutshell.
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It is not the gears that hold the transmission in park. The transmission is locked using a parking pawl on the output shaft which is designed for much lower loads than what the transmission can handle under all out acceleration. Using the parking pawl exclusively without the parking brake will progressively wear the pawl mechanism and will have it have more and more slack. There is a reason why BMW specifically recommend using the parking brake in the owner’s manual.

The parking brake on the F8X does not clamp the main discs, so it has no effect on “cooling” as you say. Further, clamped hot brakes may leave pad imprints, but will not warp the rotors.

Do some research before making misinformed posts...
Well my mistake, thanks for the info. Didn't realize these were utilizing a parking pawl instead of the transmission gears.

As for the parking brake, I have defiantly read articles stating that the uneven cooling from using the ebrake can lead to warped rotors. Maybe not with the f80, but on other vehicles.
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Well my mistake, thanks for the info. Didn't realize these were utilizing a parking pawl instead of the transmission gears.

As for the parking brake, I have defiantly read articles stating that the uneven cooling from using the ebrake can lead to warped rotors. Maybe not with the f80, but on other vehicles.
You should definitely stop reading defiantly!


Sorry.......couldn't resist.
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You should definitely stop reading defiantly!


Sorry.......couldn't resist.
lol I see what you did there...Definitely.
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As for the parking brake, I have defiantly read articles stating that the uneven cooling from using the ebrake can lead to warped rotors. Maybe not with the f80, but on other vehicles.
Sure, and not to be a dick, but this is an F8x forum, not an other vehicles forum.

Further, your point was already addressed earlier in this very thread - it wasn't like you had to take 5 seconds to do a google search to check, you could've just read back a few posts. Anyway, your apology is accepted, I'm sure you won't do it again and pivot to being a useful member of this community with solid info.

Surprisingly a few of us have experience being wrong so rest assured we'll all conveniently forget you posted that.

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And what happens when the car is out of warranty? Not everyone leases every three years.

Extending your logic, why bother avoiding hitting other cars? Insurance will cover it. Not a big deal.

Might as well leave the doors to the house unlocked and the garage door closed when I'm away. After all, insurance will cover it. Not a big deal.

Why bother to look both ways when crossing a street? If I get hit, insurance will cover it. Not a big deal.

That's just the stupidest logic I've ever heard.
LOL this is funny
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I had similar dealer feedback about the parking brake. At the end of the day, if the tranny breaks, warranty covers it. Not a big deal.
And what happens when the car is out of warranty? Not everyone leases every three years.

Extending your logic, why bother avoiding hitting other cars? Insurance will cover it. Not a big deal.

Might as well leave the doors to the house unlocked and the garage door closed when I'm away. After all, insurance will cover it. Not a big deal.

Why bother to look both ways when crossing a street? If I get hit, insurance will cover it. Not a big deal.

That's just the stupidest logic I've ever heard.
Meh... forget it, I did not like my response. Just ignore this post haha
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