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      10-16-2017, 10:59 PM   #1
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BM3 IN Oz?

G'day guys,

Anyone had experience in recent time running BM3?

I went past Millennium Motorsport here in Brisbane today and I can't say it filled me with confidence! Couldn't even find the reception area to get in, I'd say it was closed if it wasn't for one of the roller doors being open... no one about and the place looked like a shit fight! Tried phoning them yesterday and left a message, tried again when I was in the street with no luck.

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      11-10-2017, 03:05 PM   #2
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Simply Tuning in Brendale will be custom tuning my M2 in the next couple of weeks with BM3. I'm still running in.

They have already unlocked the ECU etc.
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      11-10-2017, 06:09 PM   #3
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Custom tuning on the M3 is very difficult given the location of the ecu and what a pain in the arse it is to remove. If they are doing in a day rather than a week, chances are you are getting an off the shelf remap.

Off the shelf isn’t necessarily bad as it may have been optimised on a test car.

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      11-10-2017, 09:03 PM   #4
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So why is there 2 shops in QLD doing BM3, and none anywhere else?! BMR, SBM, Evolve all have other preferred software.
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      11-10-2017, 09:21 PM   #5
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Often a file seller will only sell to certainty shops based on a whole range of criteria.

Having said that, with the correct tools, it’s not hard to read any flash file off an ECU reverse engineer and sell again bypassing any lock codes.
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      11-11-2017, 03:57 AM   #6
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Custom tuning on the M3 is very difficult given the location of the ecu and what a pain in the arse it is to remove. If they are doing in a day rather than a week, chances are you are getting an off the shelf remap.

Off the shelf isn’t necessarily bad as it may have been optimised on a test car.
Oh I know. I watched them pul apart my 5 day old M2 to get to the ECU. And then watched it get cut open to be unlocked. Not for the faint of heart lol
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      11-11-2017, 02:59 PM   #7
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Oh I know. I watched them pul apart my 5 day old M2 to get to the ECU. And then watched it get cut open to be unlocked. Not for the faint of heart lol
My ECU got fried a few years back when flashing back to stock. Luckily the tuner bought a new ECU for me circa 3K and had it towed to and coded at the dealer for me. You need to have confidence the tuner can deal with all these issues should they arise. I should note he paid for it all and my car was out of my hands for only three days.

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      11-11-2017, 03:01 PM   #8
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Oh I know. I watched them pul apart my 5 day old M2 to get to the ECU. And then watched it get cut open to be unlocked. Not for the faint of heart lol
I can’t watch lol it’s to much for me
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      11-11-2017, 06:00 PM   #9
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Just so people know the BM3 process. remove your ECU, ship via courier with 2k insurance, BM3 turnaround is 24hrs for unlock and they ship back. Took 7 days round trip.
An M3 ECU would be 3K minimum.

If a person is still in warranty, the tuner would need to know or have a contact within BMW service to code the ECU to the car. This will be a very tricky interaction and you may well loose the warranty.

If out of warranty the dealer will charge a good 1K for the coding process.

Pay to play !

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      11-12-2017, 03:58 PM   #10
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Incorrect. Replacement ECU is $1895 on e-acca website. If it got lost, which is extremely unlikely with the likes of DHL/ FedEx, you'd have to get a replacement ECU and have the car towed to dealer for re-programming (2hrs labour). Any tampering with the ECU is a risk, regardless is local or shipped across the world.
Point is the tuner took care of it for me and got the car back to me. I didn’t pay a cent. I would ask any tuner before I used them. I’m highlighting the benefit of a good local business.

The ECU getting lost is highly unlikely with registered courier. Bricking it though isn’t that rare.

If the ECU is fried, one should ask the local tuner if they will cover it. If not then it needs to be factored into the cost. Quote from a local dealer for a spare ECU wasn’t close to $1895 when I checked. Once flagged your warranty is gone unless it’s out of warranty in which case it’s irrelevant.

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      11-12-2017, 07:32 PM   #11
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Nah not at all mate.

My point is go with someone reputable and local if you can find them!
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      11-12-2017, 08:54 PM   #12
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      11-13-2017, 04:01 AM   #13
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Oh I know. I watched them pul apart my 5 day old M2 to get to the ECU. And then watched it get cut open to be unlocked. Not for the faint of heart lol
So have you had the tune done yet? Curious how you think they went and the knowledge with the BM3 program.... and total tuning costs

I'm in Melbourne area as of now.... decisions to make!
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      11-13-2017, 07:57 AM   #14
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So have you had the tune done yet? Curious how you think they went and the knowledge with the BM3 program.... and total tuning costs

I'm in Melbourne area as of now.... decisions to make!
I'm in Melbourne, had it unlocked in Melbourne
Their is a few tuners I know of that will do unlock in Melb
BM3 rocks BTW
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      11-13-2017, 11:20 PM   #15
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So have you had the tune done yet? Curious how you think they went and the knowledge with the BM3 program.... and total tuning costs

I'm in Melbourne area as of now.... decisions to make!
I haven't yet and the wait is killing me. Only had run in service yesterday and I'm about to go away for a few days so next Thursday is the earliest I can get anything done.
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      11-14-2017, 01:26 AM   #16
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I haven't yet and the wait is killing me. Only had run in service yesterday and I'm about to go away for a few days so next Thursday is the earliest I can get anything done.
Thanks, I tried ringing them this morning but no answer, left message and shot them an email.

Had a look at the Facebook page and Web site, can't find much else on them. Still curious on what they're charging and experience with the f series cars/BM3.

Cheers,
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      11-16-2017, 04:43 AM   #17
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Thanks, I tried ringing them this morning but no answer, left message and shot them an email.

Had a look at the Facebook page and Web site, can't find much else on them. Still curious on what they're charging and experience with the f series cars/BM3.

Cheers,
I see you have chosen hex and nick , good choice ,provide some feedback on hex when you get a good feel for it.
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      11-17-2017, 05:03 AM   #18
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Hex stage 1 done, gains as advertised, around 65 hp at max, up to 90 hp gains in the mid. Torque gains around 107 ft lb in the mid. Only driven about 25 kms back into the city but the drivability seems real nice driving like a citizen. Nik took me for a quick drive when I picked it up and holy shit it pulls hard! Very happy with the service, the setup at EMS is top notch.

Looking forward to the drive back to Brisbane to really get a feel for it.
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      11-30-2017, 11:43 PM   #19
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Hi all. Finally got BM3 working on my car after a mix up with the activation code/unlocking the VIN in the Bootmod3 servers. My tuner stayed up until almost 2am talking to BM3 guys to work out what happened. Legend

Custom tune was done and the car feels awesome! Comes on boost so much harder.

We did a baseline again before tuning which was 288whp with DP, Intercooler Charge pipe (which was actually lower than the stock run of 296whp we did 3 weeks ago). Different conditions on the day I guess, maybe a bad batch of fuel?

Anyway, what matters is the Delta. Once tune it pulled 343whp with a heap more mid range torque. An increase of 20% power and 30% torque. And based on most stock DynoJet readings of 335whp, the 343 I saw on this dyno equates to around 390whp, which is exactly what I expected.

Happy days.

Tuned by Daniel @ Simply Tuning in Brisbane (07) 3889 9500. They can post in or drive in ECU unlocks as well. They are now a registered BM3 dealer.
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      12-01-2017, 03:07 AM   #20
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Good to hear it all went well and Dan had a good tinker with the BM3 software. The torque gains are mental hey!
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