07-27-2014, 08:56 PM | #23 |
10723
Rep 27,539
Posts |
Yes the car pulls like crazy
__________________
BEFORE YOU BUY YOUR NEXT BMW, EMAIL OUR GUY KOTE FIRST! Kote M Sales:Kotem@bmwofcamarillo.com Cell:805-368-9101 vipfinance@bmwofcamarillo.com for warranties! |
Appreciate
0
|
07-27-2014, 09:05 PM | #24 |
Dejan
1751
Rep 4,197
Posts
Drives: 2018 Audi S3
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Michigan Ave.
iTrader: (6)
Garage List 2013 BMW 335i [10.00]
2015 BMW 228i M Spo ... [0.00] 2013 Ford Focus (DD) [0.00] 2001 Alfa Romeo 156 [0.00] |
[QUOTE=Tracus;16363965]Why the argument? His statement makes sense, and yes for many it is important to be practical and fast not just fast. Who cares I have a roof, why not just buy a bike, when you drive that fast?
What stops you? Sell the bimmer and buy the Porsche. Life is too short to live in compromise...[/QUOTE] Absolutely. I cant disagree. His statemnt makes sense and doesn't. You cant sit there and pick apart a car becase it doesnt work for YOU. If you know what I mean. Doesnt mean its not a fantastic car becasue back seats arent present. The original statement was "hey look at what this car can do with 100 less hp". But yes in the end the Cayman isnt for everyone. Neither is the M4. Honestly the Cayman has some faults IMO, PRICE is the biggest concern. Why is this car priced so upmarket out of its competition. Yes its a Porsche but its hurting it. Huge mistake in Porsche's marketing. I spoke to a local P dealer and he said these cars sit on the lot on average of 4 months, yikes. Regardless of those faults, I dont think anyne considering a Z4, cayman/boxter, corvette, or perhaps a Ferrari, and up is worried about back seats in the 1st place. If this were the issue yes I would be getting M4 or Panamara or S4 etc.... I cant buy another BMW this big...just doesnt work for me. Ill wait for the upcoming M2. Much better fit.
__________________
FBO-PS1 and stuff
Last edited by Jadar; 07-27-2014 at 09:15 PM.. |
Appreciate
0
|
07-27-2014, 11:11 PM | #25 | |
Banned
1977
Rep 1,847
Posts |
Quote:
Technically the Cayman has two trunks. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
07-27-2014, 11:50 PM | #26 |
Major General
4909
Rep 5,053
Posts |
As someone who has had a 135i, a 335i and now a Cayman, I'll chime in at my peril. The BMWs were certainly quick. I have no doubt the new turbo powered M cars are faster than even the new Cayman GTS. Sound is a matter of personal preference. As for the corners...the Cayman probably wins hands down. These things are built to go around corners. That's what makes them so great...it's also, however, what can make them so boring.
The BMWs always felt like they were being pushed. But it was also as if they loved it...thrashing them was like a game. Like playing fetch with your dog. You have to tell him when it's time to quit; he's so eager to please he'll keep going even when he can't, just to make you happy. The Porsche's not like that. It's cold and mechanical. Going around the corner is simply business. It irons them out like pressed (insert party of evil dictator here) uniforms. It's just so predictable and orderly. Personally, I miss the playful pup.
__________________
|
Appreciate
0
|
07-27-2014, 11:53 PM | #27 | |
Dinosaur supervisor
3027
Rep 4,214
Posts |
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
07-28-2014, 12:13 AM | #28 |
First Lieutenant
48
Rep 313
Posts |
The problem with the Cayman comparison is that if you don't need the space or practicality there are some other serious competitors out there. Not so sure that too many people really cross shop them.
The biggest problem for the Cayman is that it is a Porsche but not a 911. I couldn't live with that. As a drivers car without the need for practicality the one of the 997 GT3s is the way to go. |
Appreciate
1
|
07-28-2014, 12:17 AM | #29 | |
Brigadier General
844
Rep 3,249
Posts |
Quote:
__________________
'21 /// M5 Comp - Frozen Brilliant White/Black
'18 Porsche GT3 Carrara White/Black/Red - Sold '18 /// M3 - Individual Imola/Black - Sold '15 /// M4 - YMB/SO - Sold '12 E92 ///M3 ZCP - AW/FR - Sold |
|
Appreciate
0
|
07-28-2014, 01:09 AM | #30 | |
Captain
513
Rep 985
Posts |
Quote:
Now, the M3/4 is a sportscar, but is also a great comfortable daily driver, with 2 kids in the back. Now, how would that be with the Porsche? So, the M is usuable to many things, the Cayman is a sportscar, period, a bloddy good one at that, but "only" a sportscar.
__________________
3 series: E30: 89 325i, E36: 92 325iC, 94 320iC, 96 320i Convertible, 94 320iaC, E46: 99 320ia, E90: 06 318i Le mans, E91: 07 318dt
5 series: E39: 97 520ia, 01 530Dat, E61: 09 520Dat X series: E83 05 X3 2.0d, E84 10' X1 2.0 X-drive DA, F25 13' 2.0da X-drive. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
07-28-2014, 02:31 AM | #31 |
Lieutenant
54
Rep 546
Posts |
Engine oil temperature was most interesting to me, an n54 would be +15c degrees higher easily at that loads.
__________________
|
Appreciate
0
|
07-28-2014, 03:20 AM | #32 | ||
Dejan
1751
Rep 4,197
Posts
Drives: 2018 Audi S3
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Michigan Ave.
iTrader: (6)
Garage List 2013 BMW 335i [10.00]
2015 BMW 228i M Spo ... [0.00] 2013 Ford Focus (DD) [0.00] 2001 Alfa Romeo 156 [0.00] |
Quote:
Until I have the use for a back seat when the kids come one day I have to put out the fire...the Porsche bug has bitten and must be cured haha.
__________________
FBO-PS1 and stuff
|
||
Appreciate
0
|
07-28-2014, 04:19 AM | #33 | |
fast enough
68
Rep 149
Posts |
Quote:
Also, how did you come up with 5% correction? |
|
Appreciate
0
|
07-28-2014, 05:34 AM | #34 |
General
62749
Rep 24,514
Posts |
I said why in "#12" ,so i'll repait ---> The car has "///M Drivers Pack" !
__________________
"MAX VERSTAPPEN" IS THE 2021+2022+2023 F1 WORLD CHAMPION - #UnLeashTheLion
BPM DEV-Tune & DCT Software-Tune & Servotronic & coding ///Alpine HID Angeleyes ///Oem.exhaust mod. |
Appreciate
0
|
07-28-2014, 07:14 AM | #35 | |
Private First Class
36
Rep 157
Posts |
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
07-28-2014, 08:58 AM | #37 | |
Major General
1125
Rep 6,065
Posts |
Quote:
Error can be up to +10% +2.4 mph!
__________________
Current : 2020 F92 Black Sapphire M8 - ZF8
Gone : 2018 F80 Mineral Gray M3 - 6MT Gone : 2016 F82 Austin Yellow M4 - 6MT Gone : 2013 F13 Sakhir Orange M6 -7DCT Gone: 2013 F13 Alpine White 650i -ZF8 |
|
Appreciate
0
|
07-28-2014, 09:44 AM | #38 |
Banned
1977
Rep 1,847
Posts |
|
Appreciate
0
|
07-28-2014, 10:39 AM | #39 | |
Second Lieutenant
14
Rep 265
Posts |
Quote:
*Not sure what you're saying here but if I interpret it to the best of my abilities it's something like; even though the 981 is 600 pounds lighter, costs a decent amount more (if optioned similarly) than an F8x, and is only designed to be one thing all the time, that it's amazing it's putting up SLOWER numbers than the car that can do all of it at once and actually look like a man's car. Ha.Ha. **Great! Take the cayman S! It's a great car. No one ever denied that. But I am in my 20's, with no kids and I pick the M4. Because it is totally relevant. It's one of the most versatile sports cars on the road and the fact the M4 is the one beating the Porsche is what should be the headline. Not the Cayman S being "slightly" slower but yet somehow receiving praise. Power/weight, if the car is light you don't need to overload it with power. Especially when the real Porsche, the 911, is right there to keep you humble. I was going to get the Cayman S but I just couldn't fall in love with it. It was just so dry and boring. Fun to drive yes, but I need to have a connection to the car much like how I do with my Panigale. It has to go beyond just how the car feels and the Cayman couldn't deliver on that. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
07-28-2014, 11:36 AM | #40 | ||
Banned
205
Rep 7,298
Posts |
Quote:
|
||
Appreciate
0
|
07-28-2014, 11:55 AM | #42 | |
Dejan
1751
Rep 4,197
Posts
Drives: 2018 Audi S3
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Michigan Ave.
iTrader: (6)
Garage List 2013 BMW 335i [10.00]
2015 BMW 228i M Spo ... [0.00] 2013 Ford Focus (DD) [0.00] 2001 Alfa Romeo 156 [0.00] |
Quote:
I just wanted to make a case that it's not fair that a 2 seater car always gets pummeld automatically for only it's practicality reasons. I just think it's a good car especially after some seat time in it. But regardless yes back on topic the headline is the M4 and it's brilliant! It's certainly an animal in it's own rights and I think now a more complete M3/4 car then ever. Especially when opted with ccb's. Also your last paragraph sums it up perfectly. If you're not "in love" with the car no matter what it is, it would be just settling. And who wants to just settle. Especially if the car felt anemic to you. So in conclusion I love BMW's obviously as like most on here I've had multiple. I would rock an M4/3 in a hot second, I just have to scratch my Porsche itch, and one thing I'm waiting on is the M2 to see what that car will deliver and get solid info to see exactly what performance the car will be capable of. I've said it before I'll say it again, it's small enough for my taste and it could keep me away from the 981 cs . Also in truth I enjoy the full BMW experience my dealership is fantastic. The cars are brilliant. And BMW's total package to me is way better especially the ED PROGRAM as a whole. So I'm not an enemy lol.
__________________
FBO-PS1 and stuff
|
|
Appreciate
1
|
07-28-2014, 12:16 PM | #43 |
Lieutenant Colonel
1748
Rep 1,666
Posts |
Look what is happening here, that was not the intention of my posted Cayman comparison !! Nor want to insult anybody, but to my disappointment some are indeed.
Yes I know an M3-4 are fantastic cars, I have owned an E46 M3, an E92 M3 and now an E82 1M and of course a HP4 Competition motorcycle. I know M cars I can assure you. There is no doubt what so ever the F8X M`s are fast, mean looking, but IMHO they have outgrown themselves, that is just the only, I repeat ONLY, reason not to buy one, just too big for me. I have bought a Cayman GTS, the 1M will stay. The only thing I wanted to show was what small, lighter and agile means, although a lot of HP less, not to mention the torque deficit, the Cayman can hold its candle very well, even against an M3-4, with a great sound also. So with all due respect, lets just enjoy all these fantastic cars, no need to be rude or disrespectful, these are the the very best cars German engineering has to offer, be grateful you have the ability to drive one, which one doesn`t matter, some love the mothers, some love the daughters........ Can`t go wrong with either, just a matter of personal taste and preference ! |
Appreciate
0
|
07-28-2014, 01:20 PM | #44 |
Lieutenant General
18113
Rep 11,746
Posts
Drives: 2018 M4 Comp Indv
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Newport Beach
|
I agree, the M3/4 is too big, but the weird thing is everything else seems too small. I did consider the Z4 and the Boxster (and the SLK55 sort of) but I just couldn't get over the smallness ... and the boxster actually isn't that small!
But then when I look at the M4 it seems way too big. #firstworldproblem |
Appreciate
0
|
Post Reply |
Bookmarks |
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
|
|