Need Help! M3/M4 True Invoice Pricing Cacluations off MSRP

[kitesurfer]

Guys I am trying to determine true invoice Pricing, I basing these calculation below off of past M4 I had Purchased, Can you anyone confirm?, I am having trouble finding Invoice pricing on the interwebs these days.

I'm unsure if the True Invoice price of the" Base Vehicle" is 7% off MSRP or if it is greater than 7% OFF?

I show options are at 10.4% Discount off MSRP base on my old deal to get to Invoice?

Is the assumption correct the European Delivery Invoice is another 7% off US Invoice on both Base Price and Options

Any input especially from a client advisor is appreciated

[Thescout13]

Originally Posted by kitesurfer

Guys I am trying to determine true invoice Pricing, I basing these calculation below off of past M4 I had Purchased, Can you anyone confirm?, I am having trouble finding Invoice pricing on the interwebs these days.

I'm unsure if the True Invoice price of the" Base Vehicle" is 7% off MSRP or if it is greater than 7% OFF?

I show options are at 10.4% Discount off MSRP base on my old deal to get to Invoice?

Any input especially from a client advisor is appreciated

I have the M3 wholesale guide, and invoice pricing is about 6.5% off MSRP for the base. Options are all roughly 7%

For example metallic color MSRP 550 invoice 505

Competition Pkg MSRP 4750 invoice 4370

[jjrandorin]

Copied from another board....(US based delivery)

BMW Invoice Pricing calculation
Base vehicle US MSRP multiplied by 0.93
+ MACO fee $500.00 (flat rate applied to all dealers)
= Base vehicle US BMW invoice price

To figure the invoice price of your BMW as configured add -
+ Option and packages (anything you can add to the vehicle) multiplied by 0.92
+ Training fee of $180.00
+ Destination and handling charge - Currently $995
= Total vehicle invoice price +/- $10.00


Now, whether there is trunk money or some such, or incentives is different from tbe basic invoice calculation.

[GrussGott]

Originally Posted by kitesurfer

Guys I am trying to determine true invoice Pricing, I basing these calculation below off of past M4 I had Purchased, Can you anyone confirm?, I am having trouble finding Invoice pricing on the interwebs these days.

I'm unsure if the True Invoice price of the" Base Vehicle" is 7% off MSRP or if it is greater than 7% OFF?

I show options are at 10.4% Discount off MSRP base on my old deal to get to Invoice?

Any input especially from a client advisor is appreciated

you can go to truecar.com, config it, and get invoice

[kitesurfer]

Originally Posted by jjrandorin

Copied from another board....(US based delivery)

BMW Invoice Pricing calculation
Base vehicle US MSRP multiplied by 0.93
+ MACO fee $500.00 (flat rate applied to all dealers)
= Base vehicle US BMW invoice price

To figure the invoice price of your BMW as configured add -
+ Option and packages (anything you can add to the vehicle) multiplied by 0.92
+ Training fee of $180.00
+ Destination and handling charge - Currently $995
= Total vehicle invoice price +/- $10.00


Now, whether there is trunk money or some such, or incentives is different from tbe basic invoice calculation.

I believe this is spot on, I recall from my last purchase that options were at a slightly greater discount count than the base vehicle

[jjrandorin]

Originally Posted by GrussGott

you can go to truecar.com, config it, and get invoice

Much easier, yep.... and invoice means a bit less than it used to what with the regional incentives (less national incentives), what seems to be additional trunk money, etc.

It seems to be quite a bit less transparent than it was even 2-3 years ago. Makes picking the right dealer (and / or having the right discussions / negotiations ) even more important.

[Rockshaker]

Navy FCU has the 2018 M3 in it's Auto Buying Program Configuration tool with 2018 pricing.

[Daddeo]

Originally Posted by kitesurfer

I believe this is spot on, I recall from my last purchase that options were at a slightly greater discount count than the base vehicle

I used this exact method to purchase today and it was within $1 of the dealer's invoice numbers... FWIW

[aerostar]

Originally Posted by jjrandorin

Copied from another board....(US based delivery)

BMW Invoice Pricing calculation
Base vehicle US MSRP multiplied by 0.93
+ MACO fee $500.00 (flat rate applied to all dealers)
= Base vehicle US BMW invoice price

To figure the invoice price of your BMW as configured add -
+ Option and packages (anything you can add to the vehicle) multiplied by 0.92
+ Training fee of $180.00
+ Destination and handling charge - Currently $995
= Total vehicle invoice price +/- $10.00


Now, whether there is trunk money or some such, or incentives is different from tbe basic invoice calculation.

The destination fee isn't negotiable?

[kitesurfer]

Originally Posted by jjrandorin

Copied from another board....(US based delivery)

BMW Invoice Pricing calculation
Base vehicle US MSRP multiplied by 0.93
+ MACO fee $500.00 (flat rate applied to all dealers)
= Base vehicle US BMW invoice price

To figure the invoice price of your BMW as configured add -
+ Option and packages (anything you can add to the vehicle) multiplied by 0.92
+ Training fee of $180.00
+ Destination and handling charge - Currently $995
= Total vehicle invoice price +/- $10.00


Now, whether there is trunk money or some such, or incentives is different from tbe basic invoice calculation.

Is there any way to determine if there is any "Trunk money" on 2018 M3's currently ?

Am I correct that Europoean Delivery Invoice is another 7% off US Invoice for both base and options?

[Tuscan]

European Delivery is %5 off. (Used to be 7)
There is no additional discount on the options, only the base price.

[Thescout13]

Originally Posted by aerostar

The destination fee isn't negotiable?

No it is not normally negotiable. If they say yeah I willll give you half off the destination fee they are adding the difference somewhere else in your deal. Or they are taking the hit on taking half off from the profit they are already making on the purchase price/doc fees. Either way it is a looks on paper trick and not an actual discount.

[jjrandorin]

Originally Posted by aerostar

The destination fee isn't negotiable?

No

[MRCUR]

Originally Posted by kitesurfer

Is there any way to determine if there is any "Trunk money" on 2018 M3's currently ?

Good luck finding a dealer that will even humor you trying to negotiate with "trunk money" or holdback. These aren't Ford's.

[HPIA4v2]

Originally Posted by MRCUR

Good luck finding a dealer that will even humor you trying to negotiate with "trunk money" or holdback. These aren't Ford's.

"trunk money" is what makes the M4 now at invoice (before fleet, loyalty, UDE), which push the actual price easily under invoice.
If M3 has trunk money, CA will be more willing to deal if not well good luck. At the end dealer would not sell cars at lost period.
Trunk money on BMW is not ala Ford/GM, where they are advertised on the open. And now BMW NA seems to crack down on sponsors CA not to discuss it on the forum either, unfortunately.