In Australia the M4 CS price has been cut by ~$16K USD

[mmmmQuattro]

http://www.caradvice.com.au/609157/2...ricing-slashed

Equal to a $US 16k drop

This sucks if you just bought one - BMW need to stop doing this shit - it's going to give them a bad reputation.

[JibSTir13]

This may impact the price of the M4CS in the U.S.

Any thoughts as to why this happened?

[domino_z]

Originally Posted by JibSTir13

This may impact the price of the M4CS in the U.S.

Any thoughts as to why this happened?

the F8X hasn't really been a strong seller here compared to the competition, namely the C63 which outsells its 3 to 1 iirc

on F80 LCI 1.0 for example, BMW Australia reduced the price by around 30k and threw pretty much every option at them (only options here are ceramics, rear blind, tv, rear heated seats, self parking, heated wheel) - sucked back then for early adopters who paid around 170-180k for a well optioned first gen car, but for us buying now we get a fully optioned car for 130-140k, and it's actually a relatively cheap car in our market for what you get

BMW Aus may have just realised at the 11th hour the platform isn't strong enough to charge +70k for a CS over a mechanically identical M4 Competition

our market has little to no impact on rest of world, our importer box moving fees typically increase prices above your US rrp, and that's before we start loading tax upon tax (10% + 10% + ~33%)

there are exceptions, we have a free trade deal with US made products, so the latest jeep trackhawk for example has landed at 140k, and that's basically on parity with US pricing, this is commendable by FCA Aus

[bloke79]

My understanding is in this instance, BMW Australia was going to amend the price for existing pre-orders as well as now forward, so hopefully nobody gets hit too badly.

I think it's actually a pretty good price given the spec. Wouldn't have considered a CS at the original price, but would at this price.

[Super Spartan]

On the same topic, some guy bought a BMW M4 CS here in Dubai, drove it for about 1000 miles then sold it back to the dealership who then initially advertised it as a CPO for USD 149K then dropped it down to USD 123K after 1 day. This is the car: https://dubai.dubizzle.com/motors/us...Lw%3D%3D&pos=2

Now what makes me wonder is why would someone buy such a car and sell it back to the dealership after only driving it for about a 1000 miles? seems like maybe he discovered that it isn't worth it as a daily driver with no arm rest, no Harman/Kardon Sound system, no climate control, etc. for the premium he paid. Just my guess.

IMO, these are purely track cars just like the GTS but the standard M4 especially with the Competition Pack is the better all rounder striking the perfect balance between being a powerful car yet luxurious and full of tech wise to be a daily driver.

[uniqueMR]

Originally Posted by Snappy Phoenix

Now what makes me wonder is why would someone buy such a car and sell it back to the dealership after only driving it for about a 1000 miles? seems like maybe he discovered that it isn't worth it as a daily driver with no arm rest, no Harman/Kardon Sound system, no climate control, etc. for the premium he paid. Just my guess.

IMO, these are purely track cars just like the GTS but the standard M4 especially with the Competition Pack is the better all rounder striking the perfect balance between being a powerful car yet luxurious and full of tech wise to be a daily driver.

I agree.
Its waste of money if you will end up selling within few weeks/months. I guess some are not sure unless they go through experiences

[dmboone25]

So the CS is overpriced like the GTS....or at least so far in Australia.

[domino_z]

gts is/was a 300k car here in aus

that's used 991.1 gt3 money

unless you're a diehard bmw fanboy or already have a gt3, i can't see how anyone would choose it as a track/hardcore road car over a gt3

[jpdchicago]

Originally Posted by domino_z

gts is/was a 300k car here in aus

that's used 991.1 gt3 money

unless you're a diehard bmw fanboy or already have a gt3, i can't see how anyone would choose it as a track/hardcore road car over a gt3

I think it still sold out at that price in Australia though. Main reason is they did not flood the market like in the US.
Also curious how the CS is going to do here.

[Salespunk]

Originally Posted by Snappy Phoenix

On the same topic, some guy bought a BMW M4 CS here in Dubai, drove it for about 1000 miles then sold it back to the dealership who then initially advertised it as a CPO for USD 149K then dropped it down to USD 123K after 1 day. This is the car: https://dubai.dubizzle.com/motors/us...Lw%3D%3D&pos=2

Now what makes me wonder is why would someone buy such a car and sell it back to the dealership after only driving it for about a 1000 miles? seems like maybe he discovered that it isn't worth it as a daily driver with no arm rest, no Harman/Kardon Sound system, no climate control, etc. for the premium he paid. Just my guess.

IMO, these are purely track cars just like the GTS but the standard M4 especially with the Competition Pack is the better all rounder striking the perfect balance between being a powerful car yet luxurious and full of tech wise to be a daily driver.

People just want the experience sometimes. Likely that the amount he lost was inconsequential to him. I know people that have done this with GT3's as well.

[domino_z]

Originally Posted by jpdchicago

I think it still sold out at that price in Australia though. Main reason is they did not flood the market like in the US.
Also curious how the CS is going to do here.

'Sold out' is cute marketing and basically just means the dealers have taken all allocations

There are a handful still hanging around dealers here

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by domino_z

gts is/was a 300k car here in aus

that's used 991.1 gt3 money

unless you're a diehard bmw fanboy or already have a gt3, i can't see how anyone would choose it as a track/hardcore road car over a gt3

The M4 GTS was intended to compete in the 991.1 GT3 market segment. It is mentioned in BMW's own literature. It was priced about the same as the GT3 new in most parts of the world.

That is where I believe BMW failed, offering a product that does not quite stack up performance wise, sacrifices the DD practicality that could have been a differentiator and put at the same price point as the GT3. No wonder they are sitting on dealer lots.

[domino_z]

There's a few new DTM's here asking same money too - and we even get the proper euro seat spec

[jpdchicago]

Originally Posted by domino_z

'Sold out' is cute marketing and basically just means the dealers have taken all allocations

There are a handful still hanging around dealers here

I was talking about Australia. Here, in the US, they made an extra 100 (400 instead of 300). There are a lot less than 100 available for sale (only about 20 new ones) so they would have been sold out as well if BMW had kept its word.
Same thing probably will happen with the “limited production” M3CS.
Even worse with the M4CS (as many as they can make in the next 2 to 3 years).

[domino_z]

Yep if you were buying one to collect/speculate you're actually better off with the DTM as they made 100 fewer globally - same mechanicals as gts

As a car collector/speculator I was offered a new DTM at quite a discounted price but at last minute changed my mind as I don't think the brand has the ability to pull off an appreciating asset - arguably one of the most sought after M cars, the E46 CSL is only now more than a decade later fetching what they were worth new

I ended up just buying a gts hood for my zcp daily lol

[IB M]

ZCP is hard to beat with a nicer interior and better stereo and 99% of the performance.

[Wills2]

Originally Posted by domino_z

Yep if you were buying one to collect/speculate you're actually better off with the DTM as they made 100 fewer globally - same mechanicals as gts

As a car collector/speculator I was offered a new DTM at quite a discounted price but at last minute changed my mind as I don't think the brand has the ability to pull off an appreciating asset - arguably one of the most sought after M cars, the E46 CSL is only now more than a decade later fetching what they were worth new

I ended up just buying a gts hood for my zcp daily lol

Appreciation depends on where you step into the curve BMWs are not like Porsche GT cars, but the M1/328/Z8/e9 CSL/CS/M635/e28 M5/e34 M5/e46 CSL etc.....have all "appreciated" over recent years.

But if it's just hot money chasing a quick buck then yes BMW not the brand to speculate in.

In the UK dealers are offering 10k off the M4 CS as they can't shift them, it's just too expensive.

[drgmt]

Probably because the initial pricing was entirely unreasonable to begin with.