::: Gintani F80 M3 / F82 M4 Down Pipes :::

Savory · 07-17-2014, 12:53 PM

that top end gain tho!! BEAST. Need more sound clips!

Plano · 07-17-2014, 12:58 PM

But will this pass inspection (US)...?

Buddy Revell · 07-17-2014, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Charles@Gintani.com

Dyno + clips will be available later this week.

1. OEM cats are pancaked to fit in the tight area and I would estimate them to be about 1/3 to 1/4 length of the DP (I will take pictures when they are off the car).
2. No, we will not do catted DPs.

Nice! Looking forward to seeing some side by side pics of the Gintani DPs vs. the stock ones.

DieGrüneHölle · 07-17-2014, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Plano

But will this pass inspection (US)...?

In most states...no.

Charles@Gintani.com · 07-17-2014, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plano

But will this pass inspection (US)...?

For off-road use only; not 50 state legal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buddy Revell

Nice! Looking forward to seeing some side by side pics of the Gintani DPs vs. the stock ones.

Not a side-by-side, but here is a picture of the stock cats (my estimation was off):

PABrian · 07-17-2014, 01:26 PM

Charles, what are your thoughts on the longevity of the flanges and exhaust hangers on your DPs considering they eliminate those flex sections? It seems like in the long run (not just a year or two), this could cause premature wear on certain flange welds and exhaust hangers.

Oaktree · 07-17-2014, 01:31 PM

Q1 - The gains at the top end appear to be huge, (7k+ rpm) but are those real or is it the dyno's inability to measure at a cars top end?
Q2 - could you just gut the cat? It looks like pipe size and bends aren't the issue.

pkimM3r · 07-17-2014, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by cooler2442

These are the first downpipes out for the car and are hand made in the USA, price seems justified to me.

what?! this is the same material that a $300 (maybe less) in-house made downpipes are for other makes in the tuner world.

glad downpipes are out but boy that price tag is unjustifiable.

edit: ok maybe i was being a bit harsh on the price tag being $300 or lower...is akra going to have a full exhaust in titanium? damn that is going to be pricey.

checkmate · 07-17-2014, 02:18 PM

Still sounds bad

David1 · 07-17-2014, 02:48 PM

And what are we doing for the CEL?

John Tanglewood · 07-17-2014, 03:01 PM

LOVE THAT SCHOOLBOY INSTRUMENTAL!!!! Car sounds crazy!!

Maddict3 · 07-17-2014, 03:08 PM

wait are these gains I see just with DP?

TurboSid · 07-17-2014, 04:18 PM

Hey continually says the dyno is DP only, no tune. Read people!

I think the price is justified for the time being and it should adjust as more products come to market.

tareemaa · 07-17-2014, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by OBMWBrian

Charles, what are your thoughts on the longevity of the flanges and exhaust hangers on your DPs considering they eliminate those flex sections? It seems like in the long run (not just a year or two), this could cause premature wear on certain flange welds and exhaust hangers.

Was thinking the exact same thing.

This car is going to be so robust from a tuning standpoint, imagine an ethanol tune or meth injection with a FBO setup, man I love my E90, but I'm growing more and more impatient

Vintage · 07-17-2014, 05:35 PM

As one that has DPs on our e89 N54, it is well worth it considering the $ to hp/tq gain. I first bought Eisenmann Race and it is great, but at over $3k I should have just bought the DPs and left it alone.

Buy the DPs, then see if you need anything else. I would save the crazy M Performance Exhaust money, buy the DPs instead and do other performance upgrades with the savings - or just take a hot girl to Cabo for the week.

HP Autosport · 07-17-2014, 06:17 PM

Looking good! A set of these may be in our future for our R&D M3.

Quality products deserve a premium price. You get what you paid for these days. Most of us want quality, performance and value, NOT price point.

M3ryder55 · 07-17-2014, 06:55 PM

Toyota tuner same parts same material = 25% the price of a bimmer part. And we will pay for it. Can't blame them for running a business and knowing how to market and make money

Good gains good job Gintani

ProbyOne · 07-17-2014, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Charles@Gintani.com

We are excited to announce our new Gintani F8X M3/M4 Down Pipes!

We have recently finished our first set of down pipes for the F8X M3/M4 and wanted to share some pictures!

Made in the USA
US 304 Stainless Steel
Hand TIG Welded
Lifetime warranty on all welds
Improved throttle and turbo response
100% perfect fitment and space for O2 sensors
For off-road use only; not 50 state legal

What is the weight difference between the stock catted downpipes and the new catless downpipes?

Alex07M3 · 07-17-2014, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by HP Autosport

Looking good! A set of these may be in our future for our R&D M3.

Quality products deserve a premium price. You get what you paid for these days. Most of us want quality, performance and value, NOT price point.

I'm pretty sure that the price will drop when other companys are gonna start selling their own downpipes, which will mean that the price is too high for what it is, time will tell I guess!

Just my opinion but I don't see where the extra value is compared to similar product at half the price!

InTheNightKitchen · 07-17-2014, 08:01 PM

I'm aware that no tuning has been done but I don't understand why there are only gains at the beginning and end of the powerband? And, why they come together (like buttocks

) at 4250-5300 rpm?

Can anyone explain?

04cobra · 07-17-2014, 10:52 PM

Price seems justified to me...first ones in the market they can charge what they like. Given some time and more competition prices will drop.

jippii ensio · 07-18-2014, 01:30 AM

Who drives these off road only? M3/4 is a perfect street car.

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M3ryder55 Major 191 Rep 1,317 Posts Drives: 15' MW/SO Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Chatsworth, CA iTrader: (3)	Toyota tuner same parts same material = 25% the price of a bimmer part. And we will pay for it. Can't blame them for running a business and knowing how to market and make money Good gains good job Gintani
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