Carbon brakes aren't covered by BMW's four-year maintenance plan

[Cameronc08]

All the people complaining of having to pay 2k for a replacement rotor need to look at the bright side..that's chump change compared to the ceramics on 911 turbos! Almost 20k installed for a set. And I believe it was closer to 25 not too long ago. One of the reasons I passed on a few ceramic equipped turbos when I bought mine!!

[fuddman]

Originally Posted by 04RC51

The second we drive it off the lot, we couldn't sell it for what we paid ...

Not so. It all depends on what you pay for it.
You can by a car at ED invoice, for example, and sell it the next day and not lose a dime.

[04RC51]

Originally Posted by fuddman

Not so. It all depends on what you pay for it.
You can by a car at ED invoice, for example, and sell it the next day and not lose a dime.

Sure, if you went over and picked it up for free? If everything was so easy, people would just arbitrage it and do free trips all year long.

[MpowerLex]

They never said they are not covered, these are supposed to last 50-60k miles unless you track it every day. Therefore the maint warranty would have expired already. If you are not planing on using this car as a track only car don't get them. They have the same stopping distance as the standard brakes.

[M4TW]

Us goldilocks CCB'ers should plan a NA meet where we can get together and roll around in our blingy brakes without fear of ridicule from our blue-braked brethren

[Tonymiabmw]

Originally Posted by M4TW

Us goldilocks CCB'ers should plan a NA meet where we can get together and roll around in our blingy brakes without fear of ridicule from our blue-braked brethren

They are just jealous.

[jeff4598]

Has anybody compared handling of steel and ceramic brake cars? Does the lower unsprung weight help handling or ride?

[ixse]

Originally Posted by jeff4598

Has anybody compared handling of steel and ceramic brake cars? Does the lower unsprung weight help handling or ride?

yea if you run at dtm championship races and been racing your entire life, you might be able to feel couple lb diff. each corner. its hilarious how people actually believe this option will shave off couple tenths off of there lap time.
even most newer 991 owners w ccbs switch to steel rotors w race pads On track days. why? because its much much cheaper and hardly compromise performance.
be real.. nobody here "needs" ccbs..

[04RC51]

Originally Posted by ixse

nobody here "needs" ccbs..

Nobody here NEEDS an M car either. People are funny!

[04RC51]

Originally Posted by M4TW

Us goldilocks CCB'ers should plan a NA meet where we can get together and roll around in our blingy brakes without fear of ridicule from our blue-braked brethren

Haha, out of the 1058 M3/4's that have shipped through WW, only 91 of them have CCBs mounted so it's certainly a rare option. Maybe our cars will go up in value due to rarity?

On the bright side, BMW is only extending the courtesy of CCB coverage to a small group of people who have kitted out some of the more expensive F8X cars. I don't see them screwing the CCB owners over in the event of maint.

[SOM3]

Originally Posted by 04RC51

Haha, all the "glad I didn't get CCBs" people lost their ammunition now? I'm starting to like their tone more and more. They remind me of the E9X crowd a lot around here.

What? Very smart you are not.

I'm sure everybody would order CCBs if they were a no cost option. $ 8K is just too much for them.

[04RC51]

Originally Posted by SOM3

What? Very smart you are not.

I'm sure everybody would order CCBs if they were a no cost option. $ 8K is just too much for them.

Haha! So you agree they would rather have them? And basing your happiness for not getting them solely on the fact that some Internet thread filled with baseless accusations about them not being covered is hilarious? Cool, so we agree!

Of course most people don't want $8k brakes as a paid option. It's proven by the production numbers and makes fiscal sense to a vast majority of owners. It's a choice we all have to make based on means and desire. But saying you are happy you don't own them because they aren't covered when you had zero intentions of ordering them anyway is ludicrous. And canceling them based on a rumor is even crazier. We sure are an odd bunch!

I love how you can't be happy you optioned your car with CCBs when it's your own money without the angry blue mob attacking you. I wonder if the individual paint people suffer the same fate because their $5k paint doesn't save weight, isn't covered by maint, and doesn't even look good?

[Divexxtreme]

Originally Posted by 04RC51

Haha! So you agree they would rather have them? And basing your happiness for not getting them solely on the fact that some Internet thread filled with baseless accusations about them not being covered is hilarious? Cool, so we agree!

No baseless accusations or rumor. Fact.

I already posted the Service Bulletin released by BMW last month where they state they aren't covered under the maintenance plan. It's attached to the bottom of this post in case you missed it.

SI B000214, dated June 2014, asterisked sentence at the bottom of page 1, carbon ceramic rotors and pads are NOT covered under the Maintenance Program.

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...8&postcount=81

I know some people keep posting what they're SAs are telling them, that they're covered, but until someone comes up with something in writing that actually counters the Service Bulletin I posted, it's honestly nothing more than wishful thinking and conjecture.

Of course most people don't want $8k brakes as a paid option. It's proven by the production numbers and makes fiscal sense to a vast majority of owners. It's a choice we all have to make based on means and desire. But saying you are happy you don't own them because they aren't covered when you had zero intentions of ordering them anyway is ludicrous. And canceling them based on a rumor is even crazier. We sure are an odd bunch!

I love how you can't be happy you optioned your car with CCBs when it's your own money without the angry blue mob attacking you. I wonder if the individual paint people suffer the same fate because their $5k paint doesn't save weight, isn't covered by maint, and doesn't even look good?

As far as price goes, I can't speak for everyone, but I was happy paying extra for them before I found out about this. I'm only canceling because of the fact that BMW isn't covering them under maintenance, which annoys me. Also, I've had ceramics on two Porsches before (GT2 and Turbo) and while cool, they simply add zero benefit to a street car.

[Bokke]

I have an F10 M5 with "blue" calipers and had a chance to track "blue" and "gold" caliper'd M5's and M6GC's at COTA in Austin last summer and that is the sole reason why my M4 has the CCB - they are spectacular!!

For 1 or 2 track events a year I don't expect there to be any issues. Obviously, if one keeps the car for 5+ years replacement cost is an issue.

I ended up putting a Brembo BBK on my E90 so the cost difference to CCB was an easy justification for me.

p.s. - this thread did make me giggle

[slalomfever]

Originally Posted by Divexxtreme

No baseless accusations or rumor. Fact.

I already posted the Service Bulletin released by BMW last month where they state they aren't covered under the maintenance plan. It's attached to the bottom of this post in case you missed it.

SI B000214, dated June 2014, asterisked sentence at the bottom of page 1, carbon ceramic rotors and pads are NOT covered under the Maintenance Program.

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...8&postcount=81

I know some people keep posting what they're SAs are telling them, that they're covered, but until someone comes up with something in writing that actually counters the Service Bulletin I posted, it's honestly nothing more than wishful thinking and conjecture.



As far as price goes, I can't speak for everyone, but I was happy paying extra for them before I found out about this. I'm only canceling because of the fact that BMW isn't covering them under maintenance, which annoys me. Also, I've had ceramics on two Porsches before (GT2 and Turbo) and while cool, they simply add zero benefit to a street car.

I actually edited my post on page 5 based on the confirmation of BMW NA earlier this afternoon.

BMW will NOT cover CCB's on any maintenance plan....FINAL ANSWER!