New MY2018+ M4 Executive Package Value

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by Draper

Exec used to give you free extended leather, but it looks like that is no longer the case.

The leather wasn't free, it was accounted for in the price of the package which was quite a bit more than it is for MY2018.

The new package is arguably a better value than the old one since it includes adaptive headlights. The downside is that you now must order the package to get those lights whereas before you could get them in a separate Lighting Package.

[Wah]

Wouldn't buy a 2018 without the icon LEDs.

[Draper]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

The leather wasn't free, it was accounted for in the price of the package which was quite a bit more than it is for MY2018.

The new package is arguably a better value than the old one since it includes adaptive headlights. The downside is that you now must order the package to get those lights whereas before you could get them in a separate Lighting Package.

But it was sort of a bonus since it wasn't specifically called out in the exec features list.

The new exec looks to be quite different from old exec, and I agree is a pretty solid value. Heck, the LEDs alone used to be a $2k option.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by Draper

But it was sort of a bonus since it wasn't specifically called out in the exec features list.

You're mistaken - it was explicitly mentioned in the pricing guide (see attached snapshot from MY2017 M3/M4 Pricing Guide below). It boils down to a small difference in semantics. If they included Extended Leather, the package would list for $3050 instead of $2100. However, that would mean that people who want CSAT get shafted for $950 like they did with the old package. So its actually a welcome change. For the MY2018 M3, its still included in the package which is unfortunate for those who want cloth.

[gatorfast]

For those that list resale value as a reason to get the package, I find that ridiculous. You are still going to get nowhere near the cost back when it comes time to sell, just like any other option you add. Virtually every option is pennies on the dollar when it comes time to sell. Just get what you want because you want it, not because you think it will pay off down the road (hint: it wont).

[Alpine300zhp]

Originally Posted by gatorfast

For those that list resale value as a reason to get the package, I find that ridiculous. You are still going to get nowhere near the cost back when it comes time to sell, just like any other option you add. Virtually every option is pennies on the dollar when it comes time to sell. Just get what you want because you want it, not because you think it will pay off down the road (hint: it wont).

Ditto. FWIW, I passed on executive. After having an E92 m3 with every option, I learned what things I really use and what things I never use. I hate HUD and, to me, it is a distraction. My F82 without executive is perfect. I opted for black 19's and leather as my only options. 6k cheaper than my E92 and I don't miss any of the other options I had previously.

[Super Spartan]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

You're mistaken - it was explicitly mentioned in the pricing guide (see attached snapshot from MY2017 M3/M4 Pricing Guide below).

Wait, we can actually choose to have 496 - Rear Seat Heating on an M4?

I could've sworn I didn't see that option on the online configurator both for BMW UK and US.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by Snappy Phoenix

Wait, we can actually choose to have 496 - Rear Seat Heating on an M4?

No. Sorry for the confusion. The last three columns in that image show pricing for the M3, M4 coupe, and M4 convertible from left to right.

[JTO24]

I only want the lights in the Exec. Package.. wish they stayed stand alone. HUD was OK on my F80 but I don't miss it at all now.

[Kung Fu English]

Originally Posted by gatorfast

For those that list resale value as a reason to get the package, I find that ridiculous. You are still going to get nowhere near the cost back when it comes time to sell, just like any other option you add. Virtually every option is pennies on the dollar when it comes time to sell. Just get what you want because you want it, not because you think it will pay off down the road (hint: it wont).

Disagree. It definitely adds to the kbb and it will be harder to sell than without it. Sure you won't get full value but you'll get some and it'll be easier to move.

Also I hate polarized sunglasses so that's a non issue for me.

And if your hands get sweaty after using the heated steering wheel for a few minutes, isn't that the point? You turn it off then. But those minutes you used it are glorious!

And PDC will pay for itself the first time you don't scrape your bumper due to the sensors.

But the lights are the star of the show. Makes it pretty easy to justify since the lighting package was 1900 before.

[frankiebones]

I don't think I would ever buy a car without a HUD display again, not if I could help it. Total gamechanger, especially for spirited/sport driving.

[gatorfast]

Originally Posted by Kung Fu English

Disagree. It definitely adds to the kbb and it will be harder to sell than without it. Sure you won't get full value but you'll get some and it'll be easier to move.
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Of course it adds to the value, but as even you acknowledge, you arent getting all of your money back so in the end its just another depreciating part of the car. For a private party sale, I agree this would probably help the car sell quicker compared to one that did not have this package (all else being equal). But the vast majority of people simply trade their cars into a dealership so for those people, no real benefit.

[Golfster]

But who cares about trade-in value? I buy options that I enjoy while owning the car.

[ssuene93]

Originally Posted by Golfster

But who cares about trade-in value? I buy options that I enjoy while owning the car.

^This.

[gatorfast]

Originally Posted by Golfster

But who cares about trade-in value? I buy options that I enjoy while owning the car.

Agreed and that was my point. Add the exec pkg (or any other) because its what you want, not because of some perceived increase in value (which there is none).

[stooker]

Since I typically keep a car for a long time, I want to make sure to get some of the newer features that will likely become more and more standard in other cars over the years. Five years down the road, when Kias start including things like HUD, top/side cameras, and adaptive lighting for even their most basic models, I don't want to look back and say, "man, I shoulda just ponied up the few extra k's for those niceties." I'll have enjoyed those features for several years before the masses start getting them. It's happened with nav, bluetooth, back-up cameras, xenons, etc., those "I can't remember life before them" features.

Of course that doesn't apply if you're swapping cars every couple years, but that's my justification.

[boss2k]

Originally Posted by Draper

But it was sort of a bonus since it wasn't specifically called out in the exec features list.

The new exec looks to be quite different from old exec, and I agree is a pretty solid value. Heck, the LEDs alone used to be a $2k option.

Are you saying the new executive package now has LED's , i dont see them in BMW website nor in the screenshot posted here

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by boss2k

Are you saying the new executive package now has LED's , i dont see them in BMW website nor in the screenshot posted here

There is no screenshot of the MY2018 Executive Package content here - only MY2017 package and content. The website, however, does mention it in the M4 Build Your Own package contents.

Please see this thread:

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1351848

[Draper]

Originally Posted by boss2k

Are you saying the new executive package now has LED's , i dont see them in BMW website nor in the screenshot posted here

Yes, though to see the details for MY18 you'll need to build an M4 since the M3 still shows the details from MY17.

[skyline408]

Originally Posted by gatorfast

Agreed and that was my point. Add the exec pkg (or any other) because its what you want, not because of some perceived increase in value (which there is none).

Uh, resale value is a bonus and it will absolutely make a difference in trade in value and private party value.

When I was looking for my car, exec was a must and I would gladly pay 2k extra for one.

[gatorfast]

Originally Posted by skyline408

Uh, resale value is a bonus and it will absolutely make a difference in trade in value and private party value.

When I was looking for my car, exec was a must and I would gladly pay 2k extra for one.

I feel like I am talking in circles here. Yes it will add to trade-in/resale value. No you will not recoup the cost you paid for it new. Thus it loses value over time just like the car itself. Thus the notion of adding this, or any option when new under the facade of "increased resale value" is foolish. Add options because you want them and for no other reason. This will be my last post on this topic as I did not mean to sidetrack this thread.

[Kossos]

I would 100% get the Exec Pack if I was doing it over again. The value is way better now too. I got it strictly for the sensors and backup camera when I ordered my 2016 M4.

I personally don't think the HUD is gimmicky at all. I really like having the speed, nav, and radio station scroll in there. The polarized sunglasses can be an issue at some angles but I can still see everything pretty easily even on bright Florida days.

To chime in on the resale debate, I bought this car with the options I planned on using and never took resale into account. This car is for me and if I find value in the options then I'll pay for them. Just my 2¢