2016 M4 ZCP vs. 2015 M4 non-ZCP (from a guy who's owned both)

[CaryTheLabelGuy]

Originally Posted by W///

Lools great. I think I read somewhere that you have cloth seats on the new car? If so, can you please share a bunch of pictures in good lighting please? No good pics of the cloth CP seats floating around yet.

Thanks in advance

Will do!

[CaryTheLabelGuy]

So I was messing around today getting videos together to post of the ZCP exhaust and while I was at it, I happened to shine a light down into the exhaust tips to see if it looked any different than my MY15 non-ZCP. Turns out, it does. There are perforations inside the exhaust that I'm certain weren't there on my old M4. Something is indeed different in the sound attenuation. These perforations could have been added in MY16 and have zero to do with the ZCP, but I thought I would mention them.

Can somebody with a MY16 non-ZCP have a look inside the exhaust outlets to check theirs?

I got the best shot I could using my iPhone. There are a lot more perforations inside the muffler, but I could not get a good angle to capture them with my phone.

[CaryTheLabelGuy]

5 videos added to the first post. We ran out of time and due to the time constraints, I had to use an iPhone 6s+ for the video. While it isn't the best quality, it is decent. Use a set of headphones or earbuds to get a better idea of how it would sound IRL.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by CaryTheLabelGuy

So I was messing around today getting videos together to post of the ZCP exhaust and while I was at it, I happened to shine a light down into the exhaust tips to see if it looked any different than my MY15 non-ZCP. Turns out, it does. There are perforations inside the exhaust that I'm certain weren't there on my old M4. Something is indeed different in the sound attenuation. These perforations could have been added in MY16 and have zero to do with the ZCP, but I thought I would mention them.

Can somebody with a MY16 non-ZCP have a look inside the exhaust outlets to check theirs?

I got the best shot I could using my iPhone. There are a lot more perforations inside the muffler, but I could not get a good angle to capture them with my phone.

If I am not mistaken, the picture from your muffler shows perforation in the same spot as the original pictorial from the exhaust deep dive and interview...

[CaryTheLabelGuy]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

If I am not mistaken, the picture from your muffler shows perforation in the same spot as the original pictorial from the exhaust deep dive and interview...

Those are there, but not pictured here. These perforations are on the pipe coming from the exhaust can (closed valve route). I'll see if I can get a better shot of the inside. It looks different from my 2015 as far as I can remember. I looked down into my 2015 at one point when I was having valve issues from a software glitch when I first bought the car (dealer had to update all of the modules to make them work again).

[NiceGuyEddie]

Originally Posted by CaryTheLabelGuy

Those are there, but not pictured here. These perforations are on the pipe coming from the exhaust can (closed valve route). I'll see if I can get a better shot of the inside. It looks different from my 2015 as far as I can remember. I looked down into my 2015 at one point when I was having valve issues from a software glitch when I first bought the car (dealer had to update all of the modules to make them work again).

I just checked my 15 and I definitely don't have the perforations shown in your pic.

[Invictus]

Originally Posted by Dave 90TT

"Totally different car" and "next level" would imply that the difference is equivalent to at least the difference between a 320 and 335/340, if not a 320 and an M3. I doubt that there is such a large difference.

Again, you are exaggerating to a high extent, and that throws your credibility out the window.

This is dumb.

The OP stated valid opinions and the reasons he had them. I enjoyed his review as I enjoy all owner reviews, whether I "like" what is said or not

I always learn something from each review.

[CaryTheLabelGuy]

Originally Posted by NiceGuyEddie

I just checked my 15 and I definitely don't have the perforations shown in your pic.

Thank you for checking! Now let's see if somebody with a MY16 non-ZCP can check for us.

I'm starting to think that the difference between the non-ZCP and the ZCP "Sports Exhaust" is different sound attenuation and possibly a different sound-deadening material or a different amount of it. This would also help account for the extra 3lbs the ZCP setup weighs over the non-ZCP.

Whatever it is, it is working as the ZCP exhaust sounds phenomenal and rivals a lot of aftermarket setups.

[Invictus]

Originally Posted by CaryTheLabelGuy

I'll have some videos posted up this weekend!! I'll make sure I wear my flame suit.

Looking forward to these.

[dinonz]

Originally Posted by Invictus

This is dumb.

The OP stated valid opinions and the reasons he had them. I enjoyed his review as I enjoy all owner reviews, whether I "like" what is said or not

I always learn something from each review.

I guess Top Gear should be thrown in the trash as well - they called it "transformative" - so clearly they can't be trusted any more.

[CaryTheLabelGuy]

Originally Posted by Invictus

Looking forward to these.

Posted 5 videos to the OP. Have a look!

[NiceGuyEddie]

Originally Posted by CaryTheLabelGuy

Thank you for checking! Now let's see if somebody with a MY16 non-ZCP can check for us.

I'm starting to think that the difference between the non-ZCP and the ZCP "Sports Exhaust" is different sound attenuation and possibly a different sound-deadening material or a different amount of it. This would also help account for the extra 3lbs the ZCP setup weighs over the non-ZCP.

Whatever it is, it is working as the ZCP exhaust sounds phenomenal and rivals a lot of aftermarket setups.

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[NavyBeeker]

The BMWUSA configurator describes the Competition Package as having a "more direct steering ratio". Can anyone who has driven pre-ZCP and ZCP versions comment on this from personal experience?

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by CaryTheLabelGuy

Those are there, but not pictured here. These perforations are on the pipe coming from the exhaust can (closed valve route). I'll see if I can get a better shot of the inside. It looks different from my 2015 as far as I can remember. I looked down into my 2015 at one point when I was having valve issues from a software glitch when I first bought the car (dealer had to update all of the modules to make them work again).

I see what you mean. So if I read your picture right, those perforations are right at the intersection of the pipe comming from the main muffler and the straight pipes. So those are indeed not on the pictorial I posted earlier. So first confirmation that the CP exhaust is indeed different .

I still have my stock 2015 exhaust in the basement, I'll go have a look.

[trey100]

Is this a 2016 build? What month?

[Who's on first]

Cary,

Do you have any clue as to the tires? The 15's had specific BMW PSS, I need a new rear one when she arrives in a couple weeks. I could not find them on Tire Rack. BMW specific anyway.

Here's my sidewall. Not sure how it happened during our trip.

[Who's on first]

Two more

[Who's on first]

Lastly

[CaryTheLabelGuy]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

I see what you mean. So if I read your picture right, those perforations are right at the intersection of the pipe comming from the main muffler and the straight pipes. So those are indeed not on the pictorial I posted earlier. So first confirmation that the CP exhaust is indeed different .

I still have my stock 2015 exhaust in the basement, I'll go have a look.

This is correct! Let us know what you see.

[CaryTheLabelGuy]

Originally Posted by trey100

Is this a 2016 build? What month?

Yes. 3/16.

[CaryTheLabelGuy]

Originally Posted by Who's on first

Cary,

Do you have any clue as to the tires? The 15's had specific BMW PSS, I need a new rear one when she arrives in a couple weeks. I could not find them on Tire Rack. BMW specific anyway.

Here's my sidewall. Not sure how it happened during our trip.

Ouch.

As far as I know, the ZCP PSS tires are the same design as the non-ZCP F8x PSS, just in a different size as opposed to the 18 and 19 inch sizes. So, to get a matching tire for the ZCP, you'd have to go through BMW.

[CaryTheLabelGuy]

Originally Posted by NavyBeeker

The BMWUSA configurator describes the Competition Package as having a "more direct steering ratio". Can anyone who has driven pre-ZCP and ZCP versions comment on this from personal experience?

Honestly, the steering feels about the same to me. I didn't even mention it in my review. I only use the comfort setting, but even the other settings felt the same as compared to the 2015.