F8X M3/M4 Macht Schnell wheel spacer reference thread

kevin @ eas · 04-20-2017, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by itrocks4u

If i do 12mm all around would that be fine as well? Just want to keep it simple since front is 12mm so might as well keep the rear the same. Thoughts?

Stock suspension (no plans to lower), adaptive M suspension, 666M wheels.

12mm all around also works without issues.

m3nub · 04-22-2017, 12:20 PM

Anyone have issues with removing the lug bolts? I have broken two breaker bar adapters and have been unsuccessful with the impact gun... getting desperate - used liquid wrench and waiting on the soak now, any suggestions would be helpful! It's a '16 CP and the only thing I can think of is the dealer had to replace my tire due to a flat and they must have torqued the shit out of it..

I am attempting to install 10mm MS all around...

tom @ eas · 04-22-2017, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by m3nub

Anyone have issues with removing the lug bolts? I have broken two breaker bar adapters and have been unsuccessful with the impact gun... getting desperate - used liquid wrench and waiting on the soak now, any suggestions would be helpful! It's a '16 CP and the only thing I can think of is the dealer had to replace my tire due to a flat and they must have torqued the shit out of it..

Sounds like someone used an impact to torque the lugs (unregulated).

Possibly driving and heating up the rotors with some aggressive braking might aid in breaking them free with a breaker bar. Always replace overtorqued lugs to be safe.

m3nub · 04-22-2017, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by tom @ eas

Sounds like someone used an impact to torque the lugs (unregulated).

Possibly driving and heating up the rotors with some aggressive braking might aid in breaking them free with a breaker bar. Always replace overtorqued lugs to be safe.

Well I have an MS kit you sold me with new lugs so should be good there.

m3nub · 04-22-2017, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tom @ eas

Sounds like someone used an impact to torque the lugs (unregulated).

Possibly driving and heating up the rotors with some aggressive braking might aid in breaking them free with a breaker bar. Always replace overtorqued lugs to be safe.

Managed to use my heat gun to heat the hub and remove four of the five. The fifth is toast... not sure what to do at this point...

dim635csi · 04-22-2017, 10:56 PM

High torque air impact tool with tight impact socket (Hazet or so) should do it. And heat the hub again, it is aluminum alloy, so it will help a lot

BrunoHD · 07-11-2017, 07:36 PM

what is the consensus on OEM 19s lowered on Swift springs? 12R and 15F?

sdstatestud88 · 07-11-2017, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BrunoHD

what is the consensus on OEM 19s lowered on Swift springs? 12R and 15F?

That is correct. Aggressive but still safe. Some have gone 15/15 or more depends on tire brand or size at that point

BrunoHD · 07-11-2017, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sdstatestud88

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrunoHD

what is the consensus on OEM 19s lowered on Swift springs? 12R and 15F?

That is correct. Aggressive but still safe. Some have gone 15/15 or more depends on tire brand or size at that point

I'm on the stock size MPSS tires, not planning on changing so hoping it's a rub free setup with the Swift's and 15/12 on my F80

tom @ eas · 07-12-2017, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BrunoHD

what is the consensus on OEM 19s lowered on Swift springs? 12R and 15F?

Its a tried and true setup, should be perfectly fine.

bdswann · 07-18-2017, 01:33 PM

I think i am going to be ordering 15mm/12mm F/R spacers pretty soon.

Not sure I trust myself to do the installation correctly myself.

I have done some digging in the DFW area and come up with a place called "Clown Shoe" that specializes in BMW race cars that will do it for $55. Does anyone know anywhere else that had a good reputation that could get this done for me locally?

Thanks in advance for any advice!

MrMGrey · 07-18-2017, 05:04 PM

I just did the Eibach lowering springs with 12mm/12mm spacers front/aft on my M4. Pretty flush and no significant change in steering behaviour.

Found the front with 12mm just a bit too aggressive. Would rather change to 10mm or 5mm front, but heard from my installer that this would be 'own risk'? Not really sure what he meant by that?

jszhang · 08-03-2017, 07:49 PM

Might be a dumb question, but just want to make sure. Any idea if E9x spacers will work for F8x? Guessing I might just need to buy new lug bolts. Friend's got some spacers from his E92 so thinking about trying them out.

kevin @ eas · 08-04-2017, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jszhang

Might be a dumb question, but just want to make sure. Any idea if E9x spacers will work for F8x? Guessing I might just need to buy new lug bolts. Friend's got some spacers from his E92 so thinking about trying them out.

Correct, the spacers are the same buy tou would need to replace the wheels bolts to the bigger 14x1.25 pattern ones.

Stealthm4bcm · 09-29-2017, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by tom @ eas

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrunoHD

what is the consensus on OEM 19s lowered on Swift springs? 12R and 15F?

Its a tried and true setup, should be perfectly fine.

Can't seem to find the post where eas "recommends". A 10/12 setup for ZCP for perfect flush... maybe I'm blind...

Anyways I'll be doing 12 (f) /15 (r)..on stock suspension

and I plan to lower with M Performance suspension (has) next year.

Will the 12/15 still be ideal... or is the reverse more popular now with a 15 (f) / 12 (r) on a lowered setup?

Ps. Just ordered some spacers from y'all. Looking forward to doing the install myself.

tom @ eas · 09-29-2017, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealthm4bcm

Can't seem to find the post where eas "recommends". A 10/12 setup for ZCP for perfect flush... maybe I'm blind...

Anyways I'll be doing 12 (f) /15 (r)..on stock suspension

and I plan to lower with M Performance suspension (has) next year.

Will the 12/15 still be ideal... or is the reverse more popular now with a 15 (f) / 12 (r) on a lowered setup?

Ps. Just ordered some spacers from y'all. Looking forward to doing the install myself.

The ZCP wheels are 0.5" wider than non-ZCP, which accounts for the difference, in which we recommend 12/10. If not lowering, you can go with 12R/15F and move the 12mm to the front, purchasing a set of 10mm for the rear when the MPS coils are installed next year.

Let me know if you need help choosing.

Stealthm4bcm · 09-29-2017, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by tom @ eas

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stealthm4bcm

Can't seem to find the post where eas "recommends". A 10/12 setup for ZCP for perfect flush... maybe I'm blind...

Anyways I'll be doing 12 (f) /15 (r)..on stock suspension

and I plan to lower with M Performance suspension (has) next year.

Will the 12/15 still be ideal... or is the reverse more popular now with a 15 (f) / 12 (r) on a lowered setup?

Ps. Just ordered some spacers from y'all. Looking forward to doing the install myself.

The ZCP wheels are 0.5" wider than non-ZCP, which accounts for the difference, in which we recommend 12/10. If not lowering, you can go with 12R/15F and move the 12mm to the front, purchasing a set of 10mm for the rear when the MPS coils are installed next year.

Let me know if you need help choosing.

Thanks man...what is your opinion on KW HAS vs MPS? Pretty much the same, no?

tom @ eas · 09-29-2017, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealthm4bcm

Thanks man...what is your opinion on KW HAS vs MPS? Pretty much the same, no?

Very similar, HAS is the better value.

ninja2 · 10-09-2017, 10:37 AM

19" front Et25 9.5 255/35/19,Rear 19" Et22 10.5 275/35/19 could work on M4 with no rub ?

kevin @ eas · 10-09-2017, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ninja2

19" front Et25 9.5 255/35/19,Rear 19" Et22 10.5 275/35/19 could work on M4 with no rub ?

PM coming your way

Stealthm4bcm · 11-03-2017, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by tom @ eas

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Originally Posted by Stealthm4bcm

Thanks man...what is your opinion on KW HAS vs MPS? Pretty much the same, no?

Very similar, HAS is the better value.

I installed the spacers today... questionable lift placement on the rear. Where do y'all normally place the points when using a 4 point lift?

Danidanio · 11-04-2017, 06:19 AM

What is the most aggressive setup for an m4?
I want something like 20mm or more. My car has adaptive suspension and the rest is stock. Wheels are 19?? and idk about tires..
Is it possible? If not, what should I change?

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m3nub New Member 5 Rep 22 Posts Drives: '16 F80 M3 ZCP MG/Blk, '09 GTR Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Tampa, FL iTrader: (0)	Anyone have issues with removing the lug bolts? I have broken two breaker bar adapters and have been unsuccessful with the impact gun... getting desperate - used liquid wrench and waiting on the soak now, any suggestions would be helpful! It's a '16 CP and the only thing I can think of is the dealer had to replace my tire due to a flat and they must have torqued the shit out of it.. I am attempting to install 10mm MS all around... Last edited by m3nub; 04-22-2017 at 12:26 PM.. Reason: clarification
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dim635csi Lieutenant 203 Rep 468 Posts Drives: 2018 MG F82 M4 ZCP Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: SFBA iTrader: (0)	High torque air impact tool with tight impact socket (Hazet or so) should do it. And heat the hub again, it is aluminum alloy, so it will help a lot __________________ "If you want a car for track use, if want to go every other weekend fight-to-fight stopwatch to your local track: go for PDK, definitely. If you use the car, maybe not on track but as a daily commuter going through traffic: take the PDK. But you want a driver's car, a fun car: take the manual. [...]"
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bdswann Registered 0 Rep 2 Posts Drives: 2022 BMW M5 Competition Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Frisco, TX iTrader: (0)	Installation In DFW I think i am going to be ordering 15mm/12mm F/R spacers pretty soon. Not sure I trust myself to do the installation correctly myself. I have done some digging in the DFW area and come up with a place called "Clown Shoe" that specializes in BMW race cars that will do it for $55. Does anyone know anywhere else that had a good reputation that could get this done for me locally? Thanks in advance for any advice!
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jszhang New Member 3 Rep 10 Posts Drives: F82 M4, YMB, 6MT Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: San Jose, CA iTrader: (0)	Might be a dumb question, but just want to make sure. Any idea if E9x spacers will work for F8x? Guessing I might just need to buy new lug bolts. Friend's got some spacers from his E92 so thinking about trying them out.
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