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      06-08-2014, 11:42 AM   #67
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I think most of you are missing the point here. An M car is supposed to be the pinnacle of performance for that model line, why in the world would bmw leave it from the factory "un-maxed"? And why does somebody these days have to buy an M car for the true BMW ride? They shouldn't have to, bmw needs to put the true BMW feeling back in their regular line cars before they make attempts at reinventing the M.

And to the guy that mentioned Porsche shopping. Porsche to me is the next step in cars. You really can't compare any Porsche to a BMW. It's pretty much what most sporty bmw owners desire as the next level of performance or next level of car buying power. Nobody says "hmmm my money is right, do I want a Porsche or BMW this year?" There is no question.
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      06-08-2014, 11:49 AM   #68
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I think most of you are missing the point here. An M car is supposed to be the pinnacle of performance for that model line, why in the world would bmw leave it from the factory "un-maxed"?
It has been mentioned already by other posters, These "performance parts" add zero extra performance. They are all aesthetic changes only.

Sign me up for the Front splitter, black kidney, and pedals.
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      06-08-2014, 12:10 PM   #69
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I think most of you are missing the point here. An M car is supposed to be the pinnacle of performance for that model line, why in the world would bmw leave it from the factory "un-maxed"? And why does somebody these days have to buy an M car for the true BMW ride? They shouldn't have to, bmw needs to put the true BMW feeling back in their regular line cars before they make attempts at reinventing the M.

And to the guy that mentioned Porsche shopping. Porsche to me is the next step in cars. You really can't compare any Porsche to a BMW. It's pretty much what most sporty bmw owners desire as the next level of performance or next level of car buying power. Nobody says "hmmm my money is right, do I want a Porsche or BMW this year?" There is no question.
No car comes "maxed" out from the factory, and that includes ALL prior M's. I don't know what your rant is all about.
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      06-08-2014, 12:12 PM   #70
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Neither does a Porsche for that matter
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      06-08-2014, 12:36 PM   #71
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Nobody says "hmmm my money is right, do I want a Porsche or BMW this year?" There is no question.
Ummmm ... I just did exactly that. I'm #1 for a Boxster GTS (which I just released 5 minutes ago) and also considered the 991.

The caveat is I want a convertible and I don't track drive, only canyons every week (i.e. where the heritage of these cars came from in the first place). If I did track drive I'd want a dedicated no frills car: no a/c, leather, and gee should I get the HK soundsystem?

In the end the BMW fits my needs better including it's way cheaper.

Now if I didn't have access to such awesome canyon roads I could definitely see doing more track driving or auto-cross but it's spendy and canyon roads are covered by taxes ... since I'm already paying for them I should use 'em!
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      06-08-2014, 01:40 PM   #72
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Nobody says "hmmm my money is right, do I want a Porsche or BMW this year?" There is no question.


Lots of people buy BMW M cars because they genuinely like them, not because it's the most expensive car that they can afford.
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      06-08-2014, 02:12 PM   #73
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I think most of you are missing the point here. An M car is supposed to be the pinnacle of performance for that model line, why in the world would bmw leave it from the factory "un-maxed"? And why does somebody these days have to buy an M car for the true BMW ride? They shouldn't have to, bmw needs to put the true BMW feeling back in their regular line cars before they make attempts at reinventing the M.

And to the guy that mentioned Porsche shopping. Porsche to me is the next step in cars. You really can't compare any Porsche to a BMW. It's pretty much what most sporty bmw owners desire as the next level of performance or next level of car buying power. Nobody says "hmmm my money is right, do I want a Porsche or BMW this year?" There is no question.
Totally disagree. I need the back seat to actually fit my kids without removing their legs. I don't find porsche all that attractive and they are a dime a dozen 'round here. BMW's are also well represented, but not the M's. If I want a proper track car I'll get a Lotus, Caterham, Atom, or Radical. Porsche is a compromise for someone who only needs 2 doors and a DD. F8X is a compromise for someone who needs room for the kids... which is why the F80 is better. ;-) Both have luxuries that a track car doesn't need.
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      06-09-2014, 12:29 AM   #74
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Nice! But was hoping to see a picture of the M3 with the carbon fiber rear spoiler since it's the only part that's different than the M4
Yup, me too.
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      06-09-2014, 02:24 AM   #75
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Front splitter without the carbon flap things and the rear diffuser will be fine with me.
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      06-09-2014, 08:08 AM   #76
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Hey does anyone know if the gear shift selector add-on comes in carbon for a manual box? I see they put a picture of the DCT, but I will be having a stick, and would love to insert another piece of carbon on the interior to match the carbon piece that runs across the dash, and the one that is perpendicular on the center console.

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      06-09-2014, 12:37 PM   #78
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How is my comment quoted then deleted? Are the mods that upset with conflicting ideas about the m perf stuff. Jeez
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      06-09-2014, 12:40 PM   #79
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Where are those flashy lights in the catalog?


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      06-09-2014, 10:03 PM   #80
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I heard that the lights are complementary if you order the ///M strips kit

Now that I think about it, those stripes are more attractive than the graphics on the 997.2 GT3 RS when it first came out
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      06-10-2014, 04:42 AM   #81
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And the Performance exhaust is an Akra unit... NO WAY it's going to be reasonably priced... but you have the option to pick up something else that will be reasonably priced.
it's not Akra! I have this information from Akra!
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      06-10-2014, 04:58 AM   #82
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Hey does anyone know if the gear shift selector add-on comes in carbon for a manual box? I see they put a picture of the DCT, but I will be having a stick, and would love to insert another piece of carbon on the interior to match the carbon piece that runs across the dash, and the one that is perpendicular on the center console.

Thanks!
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      06-10-2014, 10:28 AM   #83
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it's not Akra! I have this information from Akra!
Probably assumed it was Akra because it's "titanium". LOL. But I hear that Akra is indeed working on an exhaust for the F8x. Any word on this?


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      06-11-2014, 10:08 PM   #84
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It's pretty much what most sporty bmw owners desire as the next level of performance or next level of car buying power. Nobody says "hmmm my money is right, do I want a Porsche or BMW this year?" There is no question.
Lol.. I'm another +1 to the list of people that got a BMW M over a Porsche.. partly because of some semblance of a rear seat, but mostly because I can't stand the looks. Might as well get a VW beetle.. Other than the Cayman, I find them an eyesore that never changes or goes away (the 911 line). No way would I spend any money on a Porsche (except for Cayman).
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      06-14-2014, 04:13 PM   #85
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I went to BMW today and saw some of the performance parts for the 4 series. I saw the carbon fiber front splitter, side mirrors, and rear spoiler. Until today I was going to get all of these parts plus the rear diffuser. But now after seeing very similar parts on the 4 series I'm not so sure. The front splitter looked "just stuck on" and the spoiler looked like an afterthought (doesn't really fit the rest of the trunk/body correctly). The side mirrors look great tho. I will definitely see these parts on an M4 in the flesh before I buy.
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      06-16-2014, 01:28 PM   #86
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it's called making money. see capitalism(1)
So just make it an option during the build, like the other manufacturers
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      06-16-2014, 07:17 PM   #87
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a "n00b" question, as I never had M Performance parts on any of my cars, what's the exact procedure of getting/installing them when you buy the new car?

1. They are installed in factory/at the dealer and you keep the original parts that you can keep/sell
2. The same as above except the factory/dealer retains the original parts
3. You get the car with original parts installed and then you install M Performance parts on your own
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      06-17-2014, 12:03 AM   #88
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Performance Parts are installed at the dealer - it is not possible to get them installed at the factory.
But you can keep the original parts and do with them whatever you like.
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