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      08-11-2011, 01:29 PM   #45
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so let me get this straight...

1. the sedan will be a 3 series
2. the coupe will be a 4 series
3. the coupe will be a m3 even though it's a 4 series
4. there is no sedan m3...but magically there it is

i'm confused
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      08-11-2011, 01:38 PM   #46
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awesome!
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      08-11-2011, 01:41 PM   #47
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Here is a rare pre-production image of the new F30 M3 electrical turbo in BMW development!! It has been reported that these will be mounted directly on the cold air intake and the massive two stage electrical switch will be connected directly via cable to the gas pedal! Above 3/4 WOT the cable will actuate first stage 1, then later at WOT stage 2 boost.
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      08-11-2011, 01:42 PM   #48
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Looks good but IMO the rear tires look too small.
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      08-11-2011, 01:44 PM   #49
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      08-11-2011, 01:45 PM   #50
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very interested to see details on the engine
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      08-11-2011, 01:46 PM   #51
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Has anyone noticed?? It's an inline-6, NOT a V6!!!
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      08-11-2011, 01:47 PM   #52
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Looks pretty aggressive!
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      08-11-2011, 01:47 PM   #53
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only tri-turbo...meh, i'll wait for the quad.
Wait until there are more turbos than cylinders.
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      08-11-2011, 01:49 PM   #54
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Wish there was video so we could hear it.
Turn on your vacuum cleaner....
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      08-11-2011, 01:51 PM   #55
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Thinking of the "electric turbo" as a supercharger, since that's really what it is, will make your head hurt less.

And 24mpg??? Mine never broke 15.
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      08-11-2011, 01:56 PM   #56
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Interesting......

So far me likey!
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      08-11-2011, 02:01 PM   #57
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[QUOTE=blipit;10205574]I though the X3M was going to get this powerplant first.

Guess it is true the M-suvs don't get as much R
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Wow why are you taking things so seriously. I put 30mpg in jest, its a magical number.

So you are telling me if you could push a car as hard as you want both being equal in performance, one gets 10mpg and one gets 30mpg you would say hmmm doesnt matter to me which one I have.

The performance is the end all of what you want out of an M3, but it is also nice to have fuel economy as well.

Remember the M3 is not a full on sports car, its also a DD for many people as well as it seats 4 with a large trunk.
+1 Completely agree.
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      08-11-2011, 02:14 PM   #59
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I like the tri turbo concept since it should produce gobs of torque at low RPM and gobs of power at high rpm. The only sound I care about is the sound of fast. Let's hope for no gas guzzler tax on this one.
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I just hope that it looks better once the camo comes off. This thing looks incredibly boring.
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I wonder if the tri turbo turns out to be a twin scroll turbo plus an electric "turbo". After all, BMW calls the system "twin power turbo" now without regard to how many turbochargers are in use.
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So, actually a twin-turbo, with an electric supercharger.
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      08-11-2011, 02:27 PM   #64
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If they do the 4 dr right they will double the sales I would bet. I know I will be getting one.
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Here is a rare pre-production image of the new F30 M3 electrical turbo in BMW development!! It has been reported that these will be mounted directly on the cold air intake and the massive two stage electrical switch will be connected directly via cable to the gas pedal! Above 3/4 WOT the cable will actuate first stage 1, then later at WOT stage 2 boost.
The funny thing is i knew a guy that hooked a gas powered leafblower up to the intake of an old junker chevy Malibu. It did a burnout all the way down the street...something blew or melted soon thereafter....
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had a Nissan GT-R, had a blown '09 Challenger SRT8 6speed manual and now I'm driving the M3 6speed manual. All cars had been very track optimized with nearly slicks, big brakes, Pole Position seats, KW suspension, ....

But if the new one is gonna be a bi or tri turbo I'm gonna buy a fairly used Porsche GT3 RS.
No bullshit equipment nobody needs - natural aspirated - 6 speed manual - awesome seats - awesome brakes - real lightweight

Guys...we don't need stuff like "12 zone climate control", leather on the dashboard, "486 speakers sound system", parking sensors, rain sensors, start/stop automatic, Internet, TV, .... and all that stuff which adds weight and doesn't have nothing to do with a real driving machine! ... absolutely nothing!

All of these features are really nice to have and perfect for a 320d daily driver. But where's the real M-Car?
Why are we loosing the high-rev engine? The best of the breed of engine technology?
Why are you adding more and more weight with each generation?

A good friend of mine has a 1M Coupe with all mods done. That thing has over 390HP and massive torque. But even though. Pedal response is "slow" and driving a turbo will never give you that feeling what a NA engines gives you. The direct and lightspeed connection between your brain, foot and the butterfly valves.
Compared to a optimized M3 it's really a shame that the 1M Coupe has a M badge.

Another good friend of mine had the new Z4 with the 3.0 biturbo for 2 days from the dealer. He's a carnut like me and no ... he didn't buy it but bought a fairly used driving machine. The "old" Z4 M coupe.
Whatta difference. The new one is a fat comfortable crusing machine. But in terms of performance and feedback from the car and the street it feels like a schoolbus. Really. I'm absolutely disappointed of the "M brand".
Every new car they throw onto the market is getting more and more extras and weight and looses feedback as well as beeing a driving machine.

That's why I sold my GT-R and bought the M3. The Challenger is still here because it's not comparable and I just love that thing - but it's not a track tool.

And to be honest. After driving a track ready M3 e46 I know I should have bought that instead of an e92 M3.

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