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      05-04-2018, 11:34 PM   #1
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Will the M3 CS hold its value?

Hi All I have an opportunity to order a M3 CS and was interested to see what everyone thinks about resale value. Because the car is limited will it hold its value better than a regular M3?
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We will never know. We predicted same for M4 GTS but their prices are all over the place now...
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Going by the GTS...no. There are still brand new GTS inventory unsold(one listed with a $30k discount). You can get super low mileage GTS second hand for $90k, that is a 30+% depreciation hit. But the CS is a more liveable car on a daily basis, maybe that could add to its value. Who knows, if you like the car buy it. Just don't pay any markup. Although I have a suspicion the CS might sit on dealer lots as well and discounts will be easy to find.

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Hi All I have an opportunity to order a M3 CS and was interested to see what everyone thinks about resale value. Because the car is limited will it hold its value better than a regular M3?
The value will sink like a ton of bricks I'm afraid.
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Hi All I have an opportunity to order a M3 CS and was interested to see what everyone thinks about resale value. Because the car is limited will it hold its value better than a regular M3?
I’m sure it’ll hold value better than the regular F80 M3 long term as far as percentages number. Probably not a good financial decision but look at these 20-30 year old M cars for sale!
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      05-05-2018, 03:20 AM   #6
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I’m sure it’ll hold value better than the regular F80 M3 long term as far as percentages number. Probably not a good financial decision but look at these 20-30 year old M cars for sale!
Agreed. Maybe 20-30 years from now when M cars are no longer manual (M3's and 4's) the CS will be very desirable. But I think the CS is DCT only.
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the only M3 that goes up in value is E30.

If you want something fun and goes up in value look for pinball machines, bought one out of sentimental reasoning(M3 E30 is too expensive), mine double in 5 years in value
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      05-05-2018, 09:05 AM   #8
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20-30 years? Think about maintenance and reconditioning costs...

I doubt it will avoid steep depreciation. Maybe not as steep as a regular M3 but it's not an ultra rare collector car from Day 1. It's not a Shelby Cobra or Ford GT for example. There are numerous solid choices for those who spend in this category so I'd be surprised if there were many collectors that just have to have one down the road.
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If it came as a manual and you took great care of it then yes in 20-30 years it would be worth more then you paid for it.
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Buy the damn car to drive, not wrap it in a bubble and hope its an "investment". Very few cars will ever appreciate and it's a stupid way of thinking about a purchase. Even the prevalence of the Porsche values won't last.
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The term "Limited" has lost its value over the years. Overall uniqueness of the vehicle and build will determine the value. Ultimately, you will only get what the buyer/market is willing to pay.
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Drive it, and enjoy it .......worrying about value will drive you nuts. All the GT3 boys paying 25K over for a GT3 that will be available at MSRP in 2019 ......hype sales cars.
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Nope, the only BMW lately that has appreciated has been the 1M. There's nothing special about the CS, and they'll make as many as they can.
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Not a rats ass chance. But please buy it and drive it like you stole it.
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Keep the miles to a minimum, positive resale value in return.
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No BMW will have a "positive" sales return. That doesn't exist.

Mileage or condition doesn't always dictate a sale. There are far more factors included.
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I see M4 GTS with less than 1000 miles for ~ $90k. Don't buy a car if you want an asset that will hold it's value.
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No BMW will have a "positive" sales return. That doesn't exist.

Mileage or condition doesn't always dictate a sale. There are far more factors included.
Guess you've never heard of the Z8
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Hi All I have an opportunity to order a M3 CS and was interested to see what everyone thinks about resale value. Because the car is limited will it hold its value better than a regular M3?
I was also looking into the CS as a car to add to the stable but I think it will drop like the rest of them. The other issue you will have is that none of them are really selling so be careful. Yes they MIGHT hold their value a tad more but you are paying more to get in so it all washes out in my opinion.
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There are only 2 cars built since 2000 that sell for more than their original cost: Ford GT and BMW Z8.
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There are only 2 cars built since 2000 that sell for more than their original cost: Ford GT and BMW Z8.
Umm...no: 997.1 GT3rs. 997.2 GT3rs. 997.2 4liter GT3rs. 997 Speedster, Carrera GT. To name a scant few. There are many more.

But, those were not mass-market cars like the M3 and they were "end of an era" vehicles.
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There are only 2 cars built since 2000 that sell for more than their original cost: Ford GT and BMW Z8.
The 991.1 911 R definitely has sold for more than its original MSRP - many times its MSRP, in fact. It doesn't fetch such high prices anymore since the 991.2 GT3 is available with a manual transmission. But it probably still fetches MSRP or more.

In any case, your point is still valid - very few vehicles can be resold at no loss. Even among limited production vehicles, usually there is still some depreciation. It may be slower than non-limited vehicles though.

The key is to understand the relationship between value, scarcity and desirability. It takes more than just being limited in numbers to cause something to fetch high prices. It must be limited in numbers and also highly desirable. An M3 CS is a great car no doubt. But it isn't setting the enthusiast community into a tizzy due to its six figure MSRP. At, say ~$85k MSRP, with only 500 M3 CS being made (not to mention non-CS M3 being harder and harder to come by as allocations are getting slim), you might see the type of frenzy needed to keep values high. Once the next generation M3 arrives though, all bets would be off either way.
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