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I'm with Aviva and they didn't charge for my winters. I did inform them they were different to my summer wheels, different size. Must remember to avoid Hastings...
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Yep good insurer Aviva.
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I was just interested in what the limits of the cars are on winter tyres. I know on summers near where I live the car would be going nowhere if it snows. Are steep hills full of snow a problem for it on winters?
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It is the depth of snow rather than traction that is more likely to be a problem as are frozen ruts which could do damage. As I said above car will do hills starts on snow on winters whereas will have difficulty moving off on the level PSS.
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In winter (and we have had some really good winters and some more mild recently in Austria) the tyres play a huge part in the traction. The M3/M4 will have no issues going up or down a hill as long as you drive the car correctly. No sudden movements that will unsettle the car is key. Keeping good distances and thinking ahead. The way the car is driven and how you modulate the power. If the car is driven correctly the car will drive just fine with little to no correction on the steering wheel.
In fact it is easier to go up hill than down hill. Breaking represents huge challenges if everything is to late or unpredictable. Really there should be no surprises if the above is all kept too - surprises only happen when going to fast or another factor outside your control. I really don't recommend going into efficient modes as this will just starve the car of power thus giving little or no traction when you really need it. Sport would suffice - just modulate the power and don't go nuts with the loud pedal! FYI, I run 265/30/20 all round for winter and have low profile chains also if the going gets tough. The boot also has a fold away shovel, 5 litre of water, a spare empty bottle, blankets and two carpet tiles I will leave you to figure out why haha so yes some limits on winters!! |
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Yes for sure!
Situation mostly arrises when having left the car in the same spot (parked nose in / forwards so have to reverse out) for a week or two. It may not have snowed too much but the ice after say heavy sleet can be a problem (usually frozen puddles of water that have dripped off the car onto the ground and frozen) and hassle of fitting snow chains not essential 2 mins down on the maintained main road once off the track where you may have parked. Hope that makes sense |
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Unless we have an exceptional winter like 1940/47/63/78 we're very unlikely to encounter in the UK conditions on paved roads that a sensibly driven winter shod M3/4 won't handle.
I've used winters on M cars for years, the kind of snow we get isn't an issue (not much, if anything for most of us), It's difficult to get your head around if you've never used them and are used to just sat there spinning your wheels but they do work. Winter 2010-2011 was one of the worst I've driven in especially the beginning of Dec, I remember driving 210 miles through blizzards, up and over 900ft moorland B roads on inches of packed snow due to the gridlock in the cities, I was on winters and the car a 911 C2S performed perfectly. Of course you're not going to punch your way through a huge snow drift on your way to traversing snake pass in white out conditions but they close that thing even in the summer....
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I remember. Last time I drove in winter proper over here in the UK, not because I can't... because I couldn't. |
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Ha! Yeah I guess in some situations you might be, I was lucky that day that I managed to move off the A1 and travel through deserted back roads (an opportunity afforded me by the tyres)
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selling a set of 19" 437m black with winter tyres
Hi Forester, I'm selling a set of the std 19" wheels - 437m black with brand new unused Michelin alpin PA4 wintertyres. Pm me if you are interested
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