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BMW wouldnt be in a lot of trouble, either. They've had profits and good sales numbers for a long time now, including the years when they didn't have such a diverse model lineup. I do agree that the company has taken on a massive technical, accounting and managerial challenge with the new models. However, I'm not convinved that the cost of all this extra engineering production, marketing and model differentiation is going to be covered by the sales of each model. I'm even less convinved that these models will pay for the new direction and required engineering work, in aggregate. I'm more convinced that BMW just wants to dominate the market, in every possible niche or corner. Never mind that the sales numbers for something esoteric like a 5 series GT or GC may not justify the costs. I just can't understand the sedan vs gran coupe decision. Aside from the slight aesthetic differences, they are the same car. I just don't see the business case for such a model. |
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As for the GT lineup, I just blame us Americans. I'd much rather have more powerful wagon options than the current useless GT configs here. Shame that there is still a horrible stigma with wagons in the US.
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I read this last week somewhere, but I can't remember who said it.
The previous bar to having so many different types or variations of cars was the cost of tooling each and every assembly line- typically every car model had its own line and very few cars (except GM clones) shared a line. GM tried to do this with Cadillac, Buick and Chevy- Cimarron, Sky lark and Cavalier respectively. This failed miserably because the Cimarron's quality was horrible. In today's times, you can get multiple cars off one line with very little price differences. Now, BMW can do this with the 3, 3 GT, 4, 4GC. They can charge a premium for the 3GT, 4 and 4 GS. However, they all play in a similar price playground. There is a high quality requirement for all cars- plus the engine/power trains are all compatible. If Mary only likes the 3, Billy only likes the 3GT, Sally only likes the 4 and Jimmy only likes the 4 GC- How many cars will be sold? Previously, they'd only have 1 sale for the original 3- now they have 4 sales- Three of the sales at premium value- for minor tooling differences. Everyone is happy. Including BMW finance guys. So stop complaining about why so many variants and give me a M4 GC. It looks damn good. |
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Am I the only one that says NO to an M4GC? I think the M6GC is dead sexy but the M4 is too bulbous as a 4 door. I think an MSport 435i is good enough for the 4 series GC platform.
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why are people posting like this is a sure thing? not a single test mule has been spoted yet. I think this is one time they won't bring out an M model because they feel the M3/M4 coupe have it covered. Personally I would pay $2,000 extra for the M4 GC over the M3, at the loaded prices of M3/M4s what is an extra $2K for a better looking car.
Its just strange to me that they wouldn't make the 3/4 series flagship car in full M form. |
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the guy who does this got amazing skills!
BUT i don't like the look of this, too fatty.
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I think i would take a M4 GC over the M3 personally... i love this, I used to have a hatchback and it was one of the most practical cars i have ever owned.
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Because they SELL. They make money. What else do car companies want?
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For all the variants you'd think it wouldn't be that tough to produce a wagon...
And they'd sell. The watered down versions we get don't even raise my pulse. Sure they can tack Mperformance stuff all over it but its still down 200 horsepower. An M3 wagon would be in my driveway as soon as I could get my hands on it if BMW was brave enough to make it. A Colnago looks great on the roof of an M3. Would look even sicker on the roof of a M3 wagon!
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Even if they don't do this someone will probably do their own M4 GC and it'll look sick.
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