Competition Package - Yes or No?

[funtimes]

In what way did the (programming of) the active rear differential change from regular cars to competition pack cars? I've heard people say the original cars are more tail happy and drift friendly than the competition pack cars. Does the diff in comp pack cars lock up LESS than in the non-comp cars?!?!?!

[///My5UV]

Dunno about diff behavior but I've seen people say the earlier cars have sharper throttle response, which would make them seem more tail-happy and would definitely be more drift friendly.

[diavliyo]

but which of the two is faster

[///My5UV]

Duh: the one with the most stickers.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by funtimes

In what way did the (programming of) the active rear differential change from regular cars to competition pack cars? I've heard people say the original cars are more tail happy and drift friendly than the competition pack cars. Does the diff in comp pack cars lock up LESS than in the non-comp cars?!?!?!

I'd say the comp pack are more "drift friendly".

IMO, the numerous changes done to the suspension, electronic and power delivery make the rear step out more predictably on the CP compared to the initial base cars.

[DML]

Originally Posted by ///My5UV

Duh: the one with the most stickers.

Heard Sakhir is the fastest.

[boss2k]

In my 4months of ownership i am not terribly Impressed with the CP and low end torque is less than my non ZCP and noticeable. Moreover my non ZCP felt more raw in sports plus mode and quicker overall, other than improved I drive and exhaust I don't see any CP improvements .

Is it because my engine has only 2K miles and will break free more? What are the impression of people coming from non ZCP TO ZCP

[MarbleNY]

Interested to see peoples opinions on this!

[Aaaaaaaaa]

Originally Posted by boss2k

In my 4months of ownership i am not terribly Impressed with the CP and low end torque is less than my non ZCP and noticeable. Moreover my non ZCP felt more raw in sports plus mode and quicker overall, other than improved I drive and exhaust I don't see any CP improvements .

Is it because my engine has only 2K miles and will break free more? What are the impression of people coming from non ZCP TO ZCP

But the holes the seats and only the front seat belts having the stripes

[Fender150]

the low end torque was modified for a reason, check the topic on torque differences and why.

[///M4ster Yoda]

Originally Posted by Fender150

the low end torque was modified for a reason, check the topic on torque differences and why.

To tame the bucking Bronco for the crybabies

[boss2k]

Originally Posted by Fender150

the low end torque was modified for a reason, check the topic on torque differences and why.

I know and dont like it, thats what i am saying. I thought ZCP car will be more powerful and didnt realize torque was same as old cars and that too tamed at low rpms. Above 5K power is more and i feel it but i am a guy who likes more torque at low end

[Fender150]

Originally Posted by ///M4ster Yoda

To tame the bucking Bronco for the crybabies

lol no actually its also applied to the CS, im not sure bout the gts

[MarbleNY]

Originally Posted by Fender150

the low end torque was modified for a reason, check the topic on torque differences and why.

Do you have s link to this thread by chance?

[shortseller]

I’ve just come from my 2015 M3 software to a 2018 M3 CP. The cars are completely different in terms or road manners. The standard M3 with 2015 sw was crazy quick but felt like an on/off switch that could result in spinning wildly and even being off the road in a matter of a nano second. BMW, in my opinion, saw what was happening and went ahead and just started adjusting the torque curve to help solve this problem of unpredictable uncontrollability but it left a lot of folks thinking BMW had just dumbed down things to get it right, angering some I’m sure. After making adjustments along the way, the CP comes along which really addressed the hardware issues of the suspension and seems to have solved most of the issues that had plagued previous cars. Believe me when I say, the now is much better than the then! BMW now goes a step better with its CS version and seems to have completely solved its traction issues from a dead stop, it just squats down and goes out of the hole, so I have seen on YouTube.

But back to non CP vs CP, for me it seemed to be a bargain after living with the standard version for almost four years and then experiencing what I have now with the CP. Too bad BMW just didn’t come out with this set up on the original first F80 standard version? I’m guessing the bean counters had a lot to do with that decision. Which is too bad, they could have made it so much better out of the gates and I’m guessing kept a lot of defectors that went looking for others brands.

[HPIA4v2]

Originally Posted by shortseller

I’ve just come from my 2015 M3 software to a 2018 M3 CP. The cars are completely different in terms or road manners. The standard M3 with 2015 sw was crazy quick but felt like an on/off switch that could result in spinning wildly and even being off the road in a matter of a nano second. BMW, in my opinion, saw what was happening and went ahead and just started adjusting the torque curve to help solve this problem of unpredictable uncontrollability but it left a lot of folks thinking BMW had just dumbed down things to get it right, angering some I’m sure. After making adjustments along the way, the CP comes along which really addressed the hardware issues of the suspension and seems to have solved most of the issues that had plagued previous cars. Believe me when I say, the now is much better than the then! BMW now goes a step better with its CS version and seems to have completely solved its traction issues from a dead stop, it just squats down and goes out of the hole, so I have seen on YouTube.

But back to non CP vs CP, for me it seemed to be a bargain after living with the standard version for almost four years and then experiencing what I have now with the CP. Too bad BMW just didn’t come out with this set up on the original first F80 standard version? I’m guessing the bean counters had a lot to do with that decision. Which is too bad, they could have made it so much better out of the gates and I’m guessing kept a lot of defectors that went looking for others brands.

It's like asking why Microsoft release Windows 3.1 when Windows NT is what it supposed to be and why Windows 95 couldn't be more like Windows XP

But hey we have iOS now

Same with the next gen M3/M4, the LCI MY would address what the first gen doesn't do it quite right.

So after 44 pages, which is it? ZCP or no ZCP

[Aaaaaaaaa]

Originally Posted by HPIA4v2

It's like asking why Microsoft release Windows 3.1 when Windows NT is what it supposed to be and why Windows 95 couldn't be more like Windows XP

But hey we have iOS now

Same with the next gen M3/M4, the LCI MY would address what the first gen doesn't do it quite right.

So after 44 pages, which is it? ZCP or no ZCP

I'm hoping this thread will die once EOP passes but not getting my hopes up. Preparing my body for the G8X Competition Model Yes/No thread.

[MyfirstF80M3]

this was a fast interesting perspective. Helpful. Thanks.

[shortseller]

Originally Posted by MyfirstF80M3

this was a fast interesting perspective. Helpful. Thanks.

You are welcome!

[shortseller]

Originally Posted by HPIA4v2

It's like asking why Microsoft release Windows 3.1 when Windows NT is what it supposed to be and why Windows 95 couldn't be more like Windows XP

But hey we have iOS now

Same with the next gen M3/M4, the LCI MY would address what the first gen doesn't do it quite right.

So after 44 pages, which is it? ZCP or no ZCP

Review the first sentence.

[hellokitty]

Doesn’t the CS come with PSC2 tires stock? Could be why it climbs out of the hole much better.

[coldfish]

yes