Pressing start button twice to shut down car

[dzu]

If you push the button with DCT in N, you have to press twice, one to stop the engine, one to put DCT in Park. With DCT in R or D, you push only once, tha car will shut off and turn Park.

[brianeck]

Originally Posted by dzu

If you push the button with DCT in N, you have to press twice, one to stop the engine, one to put DCT in Park. With DCT in R or D, you push only once, tha car will shut off and turn Park.

I coded my car to have the 1 button push turn off (6mt). It's greatly preferable.

If, for some reason, I want my radio/electronics to stay on (every once in a while if I leave someone in the car so they can keep the music going etc) if I open my door before I turn off the car, all the electronics stay on.

Best of all worlds. Plus my mirrors fold, my blinker for a lane change stays on for 4 blinks instead of three, I have euro MDM and headlights, no stupid warning notifications in the GPS when I get in and out of the car, and no stupid "do not reverse with your finger in your butt" warnings either.

Code your car if its a big friggin deal, its really a great thing to have these options.

[Naz24]

Yeah i had mine coded.

Press off button once, and as soon as i open the door, everythign shuts down.

[NPuter]

Originally Posted by dzu

If you push the button with DCT in N, you have to press twice, one to stop the engine, one to put DCT in Park. With DCT in R or D, you push only once, tha car will shut off and turn Park.

Bumping this thread as a new owner who had to search about this. (Coming from Audi where one push and then opening the door turns everything off).

I knew about this before having the car delivered to me. However, the transport driver who delivered the car to me (purchased car from a different state) did not. He thought neutral was park and didn't know you had to push twice to turn the ignition off. He told me he thought it was strange how the headlights would stay on when the car was off. I'm like that's because you're leaving the ignition on! Even worse, he wasn't pulling the ebrake.

Got in the car to leave after he unloaded it, and there it was sitting in N with the ignition on and the ebrake down. Almost passed out.

Have no idea how it got to me safely. Still freaking me out a bit

[AlterZgo]

Originally Posted by NPuter

Got in the car to leave after he unloaded it, and there it was sitting in N with the ignition on and the ebrake down. Almost passed out.

Have no idea how it got to me safely. Still freaking me out a bit

Wow. What a dumbass! What kind of person whose job involves operating cars would ever NOT pull the parking brake. I would set it every single time regardless of what transmission the car had.

[NPuter]

Originally Posted by AlterZgo

Wow. What a dumbass! What kind of person whose job involves operating cars would ever NOT pull the parking brake. I would set it every single time regardless of what transmission the car had.

No kidding! And it's not like this car has some weird/hidden electronic parking brake switch. If I didn't know the car and had any question about the car being in park, I'd pull that thing. Maybe he was pulling the ebrake when it was on the trailer and just forgot when he gave it to me.

I guess it would've been pretty obvious to him when getting out of the car if it was going to roll unsecured. Still, I'm left feeling pretty lucky nothing happened. And it's less than ideal that this is my first impression of the car...

[GrussGott]

Originally Posted by NPuter

No kidding! And it's not like this car has some weird/hidden electronic parking brake switch. If I didn't know the car and had any question about the car being in park, I'd pull that thing. Maybe he was pulling the ebrake when it was on the trailer and just forgot when he gave it to me.

The car also providers you with a blaring warning and chimes on the dash to tell you the car is in neutral ... kinda hard to miss ...

[HoldenMI]

Damn, the DCT sounds complicated. Glad I got the manual.

[Darth One]

i have no problem being ridiculed for this, but this thing is what frustrates me the most about these cars!

(of course it also says something about how great the cars are in the first place)

[backagain]

Originally Posted by HoldenMI

Damn, the DCT sounds complicated. Glad I got the manual.

A manual car can fend off fools from leaving it in neutral?

[HoldenMI]

Originally Posted by backagain

A manual car can fend off fools from leaving it in neutral?

This fool always leaves it in first.

[backagain]

Originally Posted by HoldenMI

This fool always leaves it in first.

DCT's parking gear can be automatically engaged with a single push of the power button, after the car is coded.

[NPuter]

I mean we owners obviously know how the car works, but it almost seems to me that this is designed to lead the uninformed to letting the car roll down a hill...

Originally Posted by backagain

A manual car can fend off fools from leaving it in neutral?

At least with manual, someone who is able to drive manual will know to leave it in gear or pull the ebrake. It's with this semi-auto that doesn't have a typical park mode where people can get confused. Seems with auto, people completely forget an ebrake exists...

Originally Posted by backagain

DCT's parking gear can be automatically engaged with a single push of the power button, after the car is coded.

Will definitely be doing that


With all this said, LOVE the car. Hopefully I can get past the thought that I seemingly narrowly escaped potential disaster soon :P

[valeram]

As what others were saying, it is what it is. We can code it to work like an Audi if you prefer. I do have an Audi and sometimes I like the radio to remain on after I opened the door when I am waiting. But most of the time, I like the the electronics off. On the side note, I always put my car in gear (MT) or in Park (DCT/PDK) and handbrake on every time I park it. Just a habit through the years.

[tropicalypso]

I was told by several BMW Genius' to never park with the handbrake (and to only rely on the DCT to park. The only exception was on hills.

Any truth to this?

[RickFLM4]

Originally Posted by tropicalypso

I was told by several BMW Genius' to never park with the handbrake (and to only rely on the DCT to park. The only exception was on hills.

Any truth to this?

Did they give you a reason why? Or maybe they were saying to put it in gear so it goes into park and not to leave it in neutral and just rely on handbrake?

[Darth One]

so last night i tried reversing into the garage, and turning off the car while the car was still in reverse gear. IT DROVE ME NUTS!!

it turned off the car with one button push, but seeing that DCT lever in the reverse position bothered me immensely. it's a far worse solution than pushing the button twice.

these are serious issues, BMW. are you prepared to address the mental health issues you are creating in your drivers??

[NPuter]

Still trying to get over the thought of the transporter possibly wrecking my brand new car for such a stupid reason before I was even able to see it - haven't really been able to enjoy it yet.
Guess I just need to forget about it since nothing happened.

Originally Posted by valeram

As what others were saying, it is what it is. We can code it to work like an Audi if you prefer. I do have an Audi and sometimes I like the radio to remain on after I opened the door when I am waiting. But most of the time, I like the the electronics off. On the side note, I always put my car in gear (MT) or in Park (DCT/PDK) and handbrake on every time I park it. Just a habit through the years.

Doesn't make a huge difference to me, but I'll probably end up coding it since the Audi way is what I prefer.

Originally Posted by tropicalypso

I was told by several BMW Genius' to never park with the handbrake (and to only rely on the DCT to park. The only exception was on hills.

Any truth to this?

I can't see a reason besides reducing wear. I usually always set the parking brake regardless of if I'm driving auto or manual (Audi is 6MT) unless I'm on a completely flat surface.

[drgmt]

Not this again lol

[SD ///M4]

Originally Posted by tropicalypso

I was told by several BMW Genius' to never park with the handbrake (and to only rely on the DCT to park. The only exception was on hills.

Not a very smart "Genius" if they gave you this advice. Parking brakes should ALWAYS be used when parking a car. The only exception to this if you are tracking or autocrossing some cars you shouldn't put the parking brake on after a track session because the brake pads could stick to the disc and leave a deposit.

[BMWM5NYC]

I have said it before and I will say it again. If you treat the DCT like a MANUAL with an Auto Mode. Instead of an Automatic with a Manual mode you have no issues. With a manual you don't have a "park" position. So you shut the car off in gear (1st or Reverse) and engage the parking brake and you are done. If you leave the DCT in Gear, just like a Manual, and shut it off , it goes into "Park". Engage the parking brake and you are Done. Easy/Peasy. It really isn't Rocket Science. Your DCT should be treated as a MANUAL with an Auto Mode. Not and Auto with a Manual mode

[NPuter]

Originally Posted by BMWM5NYC

I have said it before and I will say it again. If you treat the DCT like a MANUAL with an Auto Mode. Instead of an Automatic with a Manual mode you have no issues. With a manual you don't have a "park" position. So you shut the car off in gear (1st or Reverse) and engage the parking brake and you are done. If you leave the DCT in Gear, just like a Manual, and shut it off , it goes into "Park". Engage the parking brake and you are Done. Easy/Peasy. It really isn't Rocket Science. Your DCT should be treated as a MANUAL with an Auto Mode. Not and Auto with a Manual mode

Pretty sure everybody here knows that.
What I'm saying is I'd worry about people jumping into the car who don't know/aren't told that and see what looks like an auto. I.e. the transport guy who said to me "it was confusing until I realized neutral is park" and left my car unsecured on the side of the road ready to roll into traffic.

I can imagine this happens with valets as well, although I never valet my cars.