M4 loses control leaving Cars and Coffee, hits median, gets airborne. Owner explains.

[E46M3forRay]

the violent impact from the jump managed to open the gas door. Wouldn't be surprised if there was also some minor frame damage in addition to some suspension damage.

Curious to know if the steering wheel still dead center after all that fiasco.

[ixse]

Lol cant believe the driver feels everything he did there is within legal limits. Guess he never heard reckless driving. Who is he trying to kid.. Posting like a mature gentleman lol.. Consider yourself lucky that there were no opposing traffic. Lets just get to the core of the problem. The driver wanted to show off his car after the meet, punches turbo rwd car w cold tires on public road, car snap oversteers. If you have track experience, you should be fully aware that cold tires can get real snappy under hard load.. Anyway.. Hope this is lesson learned for ya.

[dim635csi]

Originally Posted by minn19

I don't fully understand how the differential works. I understand the basics of what it does, but not how quick it works. After watching the video quite a few times it looks like it was 2 seconds from the start of the skid to the curb hit. It also looks like the right rear is lighting up much quicker than the left rear tire. Shouldn't the differential counter this quicker and not allow such a difference in rear wheel speed?

I think left rear was in the air at the moment.

[consolidated]

Originally Posted by trinim3

Hey guys,

It was my car that was involved.

Agree with others, lots of respect and appreciate the explanation. Also agree this car can catch you off guard quickly when the nannies are away.

No doubt cold tires contributed hugely to the snap oversteer. What you should have done is a burn out first to put some heat in.

[idocm4]

Glad you came out ok. Respect to you for coming forward.

[minn19]

Originally Posted by dim635csi

I think left rear was in the air at the moment.

Thank you. I do realize a differential does no good when the wheels are not on the ground.

Watch the video when the right tire is spinning/smoking the left appears to be spinning much slower.

[dim635csi]

Originally Posted by minn19

Thank you. I do realize a differential does no good when the wheels are not on the ground.

Watch the video when the right tire is spinning/smoking the left appears to be spinning much slower.

You've mention "how quick" I don't think diff is locked up.

[Lups]

Originally Posted by JTO24

Damn!! Lol just saw this on Facebook.. wonder if the driver is on the forum? I doubt anyone would want to own up to it lol

Lol we'll never know, not even I would own up to this!

Edit: And again I was wrong.

Glad you're okay trinim3, I wish you all the best.

[JDMunoa]

This vid got me in trouble today... LOL'd I the middle of church!

[Tonymiabmw]

Lol

[M4TW]

It looked like terminal snap oversteer to me. However you got there, you're lucky to have hit the curb square on like that though as otherwise you might have toasted your entire suspension. I really hope the damage proves to be as minimal as its appearing so far. If so, buy a lottery ticket. Thanks for letting us know what happened so we all can learn from it.

[Jay1994]

Originally Posted by trinim3

Yup, will have suspension inspected and alignment performed to be sure. I looked under the car with a flashlight and was surprised everything appeared intact. I was counting dollar signs in my head as I went over the curb. By the way I had no idea I had went that high into the air.

Dude... Glad you're okay! You caught some serious air

[Race_Doc11]

+1 I'm glad OP is Ok.

Originally Posted by mkoesel

Wow.

Huge respect for your humble display of integrity and accountability.

Very glad you are okay sir. Be safe out there.

[NorCal f80]

trinim3 ----- try to ignore all the negative comments you'll be reading. We all push are cars and shit just happened to you. Your incident looked to be pretty mellow, I'm surprised it caught and kicked out. Mellow meaning [like you said] you were already rolling and just punched it.

[onatuesday]

Thanks to all of you who have been so supportive and helpful with your posts, texts, and PMs. I wish I could hide under a rock, but in this day and age of social media, there's no escaping it. All I can do is own up to it and be thankful that the outcome wasn't worse. Some of you have said that I should have known better than to give it gas in such conditions and you're right. I think I'm afraid to admit that I forgot how much respect a RWD car demands because in the RS5 you don't worry about flooring it. But I signed up for RWD knowing exactly what it was capable of, so that's my mistake for forgetting. It doesn't feel good at all to be the poster child of a bad BMW driver. For those of you that aren't supportive, I totally get where you're coming from and don't blame you.

[Lups]

Originally Posted by trinim3

Thanks to all of you who have been so supportive and helpful with your posts, texts, and PMs. I wish I could hide under a rock, but in this day and age of social media, there's no escaping it. All I can do is own up to it and be thankful that the outcome wasn't worse. Some of you have said that I should have known better and you're right. I think I'm afraid to admit that I forgot how much respect a RWD car demands because in the RS5 you don't worry about flooring it. But I signed up for RWD knowing exactly what it was capable of, so that's my mistake for forgetting. For those of you that aren't supportive, I totally get where you're coming from and don't blame you. I deserve it.

Yes, you get shit from all of us, since we're indeed perfect.

I posted my comment earlier without reading the whole thing through, and I left it on just to be an adult for once.

Yes, you fucked up, but unlike so many others here, it ended up online. That being said, I know many, many others who have done this or even worse already, but never had to face the forum for it. I would say based on the clip and circumstances told by you, this will happen again to someone else too. We go to carmeets, and sometimes circumstances are forgotten.

I never wrote it here, but on a country lane, going way too fast as usual in Tennessee, it was a mix of pure luck and more luck than skill that I didn't wrap my car on my first week with it. I was coming from a bend and saw a rock on the road, and thanked my lucky stars I didn't use the brakes, since the asphalt had sand on it. I've never been so happy about learning to drive in Finland as i was after that experience.

Each of us has probably done something stupid with theirs already, we just were lucky enough it didn't end up on tape.

[Bonzer103]

We've all made mistakes that we've regretted. I have less respect for the tools that would rather humiliate you. Way to take the high road. All the best.

[shortseller]

Originally Posted by trinim3

Thanks to all of you who have been so supportive and helpful with your posts, texts, and PMs. I wish I could hide under a rock, but in this day and age of social media, there's no escaping it. All I can do is own up to it and be thankful that the outcome wasn't worse. Some of you have said that I should have known better than to floor it in such conditions and you're right. I think I'm afraid to admit that I forgot how much respect a RWD car demands because in the RS5 you don't worry about flooring it. But I signed up for RWD knowing exactly what it was capable of, so that's my mistake for forgetting. For those of you that aren't supportive, I totally get where you're coming from and don't blame you. I deserve it.

Don't sweat it man, we all f/up sometimes. You owe no explanations or need to apologize. I'm sure it scared the crap out of you, and that's enough! Get it fixed and get back to enjoying the car.

[chiplee]

Originally Posted by KennyPowers

Not possible. dsc must not be completely off

The only DSC off I've found is MDM on. Am I missing something? The car will not get out of shape.

[M4TW]

Originally Posted by trinim3

Thanks to all of you who have been so supportive and helpful with your posts, texts, and PMs. I wish I could hide under a rock, but in this day and age of social media, there's no escaping it. All I can do is own up to it and be thankful that the outcome wasn't worse. Some of you have said that I should have known better than to floor it in such conditions and you're right. I think I'm afraid to admit that I forgot how much respect a RWD car demands because in the RS5 you don't worry about flooring it. But I signed up for RWD knowing exactly what it was capable of, so that's my mistake for forgetting. It doesn't feel good at all to be the poster child of a bad BMW driver. For those of you that aren't supportive, I totally get where you're coming from and don't blame you.

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone I say. I know what you mean about being spoiled by an AWD. Coming from a FBO tuned 335xi I got spoiled by simply hammering the throttle whenever I wanted. Not that you did that. Without a LSD, a RWD car will track straight when one wheel is spinning. Two tires spinning creates a highly unstable situation, as you found. It looks like a freak occurrence more than anything. I'd buy you a beer I would.

[M4TW]

Originally Posted by chiplee

The only DSC off I've found is MDM on. Am I missing something? The car will not get out of shape.

Press the button for a few seconds longer and DSC will be off without MDM and you'll be in Trinim3 territory.

[chiplee]

Originally Posted by M4TW

Press the button for a few seconds longer and DSC will be off without MDM and you'll be in Trinim3 territory.

Wow, new owner moment. Too busy driving to read the manual. Thanks.