How many US-bound M3 CS are already spoken for?

[mpizutti]

Hello everyone. Does anyone know how many of the M3 CS that are coming to the US are spoken for?

Maybe GOLFFRR might have the answer. I have one but the dealer up the street still has no takers on thier M3 CS. Just looking to see how these will sell.

Thanks

[Thescout13]

I know of 3 dealers with open allocations, meaning not spoken for. 2 are looking for a significant premium over sticker (CA) the third is willing to give it for MSRP. I would imagine half will go at MSRP or higher and a quarter will go at MSRP +/- a couple hundred and the remaining quarter will go GTS and drop to slightly above invoice in a year or so. I would put the dealers against each other for a deal if it doesn't have any takers yet. I don't imagine this will be a CSL type of car that sky rockets later, look at the GTS, but you never no.

[Veden]

I believe we have 4 coming to our store...l know one is spoken for.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by Thescout13

I know of 3 dealers with open allocations, meaning not spoken for. 2 are looking for a significant premium over sticker (CA) the third is willing to give it for MSRP. I would imagine half will go at MSRP or higher and a quarter will go at MSRP +/- a couple hundred and the remaining quarter will go GTS and drop to slightly above invoice in a year or so. I would put the dealers against each other for a deal if it doesn't have any takers yet. I don't imagine this will be a CSL type of car that sky rockets later, look at the GTS, but you never no.

I wonder who is willing to pay above MSRP for a CS ...

My bet is that the majority will go at or below MSRP. The CS ain't that special.

[GOLFFRR]

if you want one there will be plenty out there IMO. We are getting 4 or 5. not sure how many the boys have locked up already.

[Thescout13]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

I wonder who is willing to pay above MSRP for a CS ...

My bet is that the majority will go at or below MSRP. The CS ain't that special.

I tend to agree. But in markets like LA, people will absolutely pay above. In the rest of the country, not that much.

[mpizutti]

Mine will be coming in under MSRP..I have a frozen blue..the other dealer has San Merino blue.

[TXSoxFan]

I did my ED last week, and while I was there there was someone doing a delivery on a M3CS (a EU local). Was it beautiful, yes. Is it worth the premium, IMO not even close. I would prefer my M3 and spend the extra on mods.

[512systems]

A lot of people are hung up on the price of the CS and while it's obviously an expensive M3 it's not too far off what you would be spending for a true fully loaded competition package car with similar options. If you spec out a ZCP M3 with full leather, individual interior/paint, 763 wheels, ceramics, carbon diffuser, splitter and spoiler etc and you're well in to the low 100's or very close to it. And then you're obviously paying a little premium for the limited factor and the carbon hood. To me, if you're in the market for a true fully loaded M3, for another $6-8k you can have a CS. That may or may not be a better option for some people. I would also be curious to know how many are spoken for and what they are trading at. I am paying MSRP for mine.

[Thescout13]

Originally Posted by 512systems

A lot of people are hung up on the price of the CS and while it's obviously an expensive M3 it's not too far off what you would be spending for a true fully loaded competition package car with similar options. If you spec out a ZCP M3 with full leather, individual paint, 763 wheels, ceramics, carbon diffuser, splitter and spoiler etc and you're well in to the low 100's or very close to it. And then you're obviously paying a little premium for the limited factor and the carbon hood. To me, if you're in the market for a true fully loaded M3, for another $6-8k you can have a CS. That may or may not be a better option for some people. I would also be curious to know how many are spoken for and what they are trading at. I am paying MSRP for mine.

Valid point. However the people who buy a fully spec'd M3 with full leather etc, are usually not buying that M3 for the same purpose of those buying the M3 CS. For example if I am buying a fully optioned leather everything option everything M3, I'm pretty sure internal storage space in the car is on my list of wants. If I am buying this car for track only, which is what the CS is truly meant for, I would not get a fully loaded M3 with full leather etc anyway. My builds for my track focused sports car the would be roughly $84k compared to $100k. That's a decent gap I would imagine.

But I'm with you. If you are looking to buy the car for the sticker bragging rights - the most decked out M3, what's a $6-7k premium.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by Thescout13

If I am buying this car for track only, which is what the CS is truly meant for

Sorry, but that is NOT what the CS is about. The CS about being a DUAL purpose car with slightly more bias towards track duty relative the the base/CP M3/4 (EDC, ABS, DSC and eDiff tuned for R-compounds).

The M3CS actually sacrifices very little daily practicality relative to CP M3 (dual zone climate, center storage bin/armrest, comfort access). The M4CS sacrifice just a little more (HK sound, cardboard door cards without storage) but gains the alcantara seats.

[512systems]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

Sorry, but that is NOT what the CS is about. The CS about being a DUAL purpose car with slightly more bias towards track duty relative the the base/CP M3/4 (EDC, ABS, DSC and eDiff tuned for R-compounds).

The M3CS actually sacrifices very little daily practicality relative to CP M3 (dual zone climate, center storage bin/armrest, comfort access). The M4CS sacrifice just a little more (HK sound, cardboard door cards without storage).

Yeah I would tend to agree with this. I ordered a CS because I actually wanted to order an individual interior/exterior color car and knew that at this point I wouldn't have a hope of getting an allocation. So I consider this car just about as special.

I sold a 991 GT3 in favor of this car because I can't put a car seat in the GT3. So to me, the F80 is the perfect balance between road and track. The CS is just icing on an already amazing car...

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by 512systems

A lot of people are hung up on the price of the CS and while it's obviously an expensive M3 it's not too far off what you would be spending for a true fully loaded competition package car with similar options. If you spec out a ZCP M3 with full leather, individual paint, 763 wheels, ceramics, carbon diffuser, splitter and spoiler etc and you're well in to the low 100's or very close to it. And then you're obviously paying a little premium for the limited factor and the carbon hood. To me, if you're in the market for a true fully loaded M3, for another $6-8k you can have a CS. That may or may not be a better option for some people. I would also be curious to know how many are spoken for and what they are trading at. I am paying MSRP for mine.

I agree. That's what got me in my M4CS. Speccing a CP M4 to my liking would bring the price to $101,000CAD, and that is far from being fully loaded. My M4CS comes in at $117,100CAD. For $16,000CAD ($12,000USD) I get a fully warrantied car with electronics tuned for R-compund tires, a factory engine tune, a CF front lip, a CF diffuser, a CF rear deck spoiler, a CF hood, 763M wheels and an exclusive Lime Rock Grey paint. It's worth it to me, but I understand it is not for everyone.

[Thescout13]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

Sorry, but that is NOT what the CS is about. The CS about being a DUAL purpose car with slightly more bias towards track duty relative the the base/CP M3/4 (EDC, ABS, DSC and eDiff tuned for R-compounds).

The M3CS actually sacrifices very little daily practicality relative to CP M3 (dual zone climate, center storage bin/armrest, comfort access). The M4CS sacrifice just a little more (HK sound, cardboard door cards without storage) but gains the alcantara seats.

Granted. I get that it is a DUAL purpose car. But I am talking about what my motivation to get it would be. Meaning if my motivation is to get a decked out M3 with all the bells and whistles, I want those convenience features that I am otherwise sacrificing spending 6k more for a bit less. That may matter more to me if I want a fully decked out M3. If I truly want the rawest dual purpose car, then I wouldn't opt for a normal M3 with full leather etc. That would mean my ideal build for truly Dual purpose car is around $84k for a comp M3, and the CS is much more than that. That was my point.

No need to apologize, it's my opinion, you don't have to agree with it. What the CS is "about" is a matter of opinion, that is unless there is a direct quote from BMW and there probably is saying I'm wrong.

PS, just because the CS or GTS is street legal doesn't mean it is necessarily meant to be a dual purpose car, but it is a nice bonus. The marketing makes it clear that the CS is geared toward the track enthusiast. Also, given that Alcantara costs less than leather in reality are you really gaining anything? Hahaha

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by Thescout13

Granted. I get that it is a DUAL purpose car. But I am talking about what my motivation to get it would be. Meaning if my motivation is to get a decked out M3 with all the bells and whistles, I want those convenience features that I am otherwise sacrificing spending 6k more for a bit less. That may matter more to me if I want a fully decked out M3. If I truly want the rawest dual purpose car, then I wouldn't opt for a normal M3 with full leather etc. That would mean my ideal build for truly Dual purpose car is around $84k for a comp M3, and the CS is much more than that. That was my point.

No need to apologize, it's my opinion, you don't have to agree with it. What the CS is "about" is a matter of opinion, that is unless there is a direct quote from BMW and there probably is saying I'm wrong.

PS, just because the CS or GTS is street legal doesn't mean it is necessarily meant to be a dual purpose car, but it is a nice bonus. The marketing makes it clear that the CS is geared toward the track enthusiast. Also, given that Alcantara costs less than leather in reality are you really gaining anything? Hahaha

BMW have indeed been quoted more than once on this (I would need to look up references). While GTS is intended primarily as a track, being street legal allows the owner to drive it to and from the track, it is not the case for the CS. The CS is meant as a dual use car with slightly more bias towards track use relative to the CP. It is not a question of opinion, it is BMW's design intent and how they chose to slot the cars in their market segments.

Now, folks are free to use their cars for whatever they want, regardless of BMW's design intent. That is a question of opinion and choice .

If I were in the market for a track "only" car, the CS would not be it .

[Thescout13]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

BMW have indeed been quoted more than once on this (I would need to look up references). While GTS is intended primarily as a track, being street legal allows the owner to drive it to and from the track, it is not the case for the CS. The CS is meant as a dual use car with slightly more bias towards track use relative to the CP. It is not a question of opinion, it is BMW's design intent and how they chose to slot the cars in their market segments.

Now, folks are free to use their cars for whatever they want, regardless of BMW's design intent. That is a question of opinion and choice .

If I were in the market for a track "only" car, the CS would not be it .

Got it. So you completely overlooked the rest of my post and focused on one sentence in which I admitted I could be wrong. Cool.

All I am saying is that the same buyer who is buying a full optioned $94k M3 is USUALLY not the same buyer as a $100k M3CS, unless they just want bragging rights on having the most expensive M3. That has been my point all along. If there are outliers out there, than ok. But in the US, I would put money on my generalization above.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by Thescout13

Got it. So you completely overlooked the rest of my post and focused on one sentence in which I admitted I could be wrong. Cool.

All I am saying is that the same buyer who is buying a full optioned $94k M3 is USUALLY not the same buyer as a $100k M3CS, unless they just want bragging rights on having the most expensive M3. That has been my point all along. If there are outliers out there, than ok. But in the US, I would put money on my generalization above.

Fully agree

I just pointed the potion I did not agree with .

I posted something to that effect earlier. In Canada, a fully loaded M3 is actually more expensive than a CS. As I also pointed out, the price difference between how I would spec a CP compared to the CS is worth it to me (about $12k USD) for what I get, but it is not necessarily the case for everyone.

[MRCUR]

My CS just went into production this week and should be done at the end of the month. Pretty sure this is the single CS my dealer is getting. They're not super high volume.

[512systems]

My CS got on board the "Asian King" yesterday slated for Long Beach 8/7/18. Anyone else on that boat??

[TXSoxFan]

Originally Posted by 512systems

My CS got on board the "Asian King" yesterday slated for Long Beach 8/7/18. Anyone else on that boat??

My ED car is on that boat as well. Hoping to have it before Labor Day (seeing at it needs to clear customs and I hope they repaint the bumper).