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      02-03-2014, 01:57 PM   #133
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Hopefully they make a grand coupe M4
They do........its called the M3.
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Much better in the wild and with silver wheels. Much! And the sound is way better than previous vids too. Hurry up and get here, June!
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vid doesn't belong on youtube.com... it belongs on youporn.com.
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They do........its called the M3.
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As usual, haters going to hate, but I also did say this car was sounding better and better every time and the final real-world sound would be to expectations. Ha - Ha. Liking white, blasphemy, I might finally have a car that's not black yet again!
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As usual, haters going to hate, but I also did say this car was sounding better and better every time and the final real-world sound would be to expectations. Ha - Ha. Liking white, blasphemy, I might finally have a car that's not black yet again!
Sapphire Black would by far be my first choice if I wasn't going to have to spend 2-3 hours a week on the upkeep. I cant stand swirls lol.
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      02-03-2014, 02:19 PM   #139
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Sapphire Black would by far be my first choice if I wasn't going to have to spend 2-3 hours a week on the upkeep. I cant stand swirls lol.
Yup, I'm in the same boat, it looks awesome in black but it's just too much work. Car looks great in white, but I think I'll be going with Mineral Grey.
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      02-03-2014, 02:21 PM   #140
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Yup, I'm in the same boat, it looks awesome in black but it's just too much work. Car looks great in white, but I think I'll be going with Mineral Grey.
Haha same here. Mineral Grey is 'ALMOST' black but not as much headache. Or at least I'm hoping.

I used to have a friend w/ an Alpine White E90 who would wipe dirt off the side with a bath towel. Couldn't see anything on the paint. If I looked at my Jet Black sideways I had to have a full correction done lol
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      02-03-2014, 02:26 PM   #141
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I guess it all depends on what he meant by essence.

As you say, it might be throttle response or it might be the thrill of exploiting the engine through the rev range.

It's obviously not the same as the S65 in it's power delivery, because one major difference is it's fat mid range torque. But since the S55 delivers more hp and torque than the S65, even after 5500rpm, it might also be that he suggests that it feels thrilling all the way to the redline

Which is basically what I asked him about, but he hasn't replied to the latest questions yet...

And after my mishap with the "a few" affair, I looked up the definition of essence

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/essence



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essence
If you are perhaps more familiar with the E92 M3 than I am. I have only driven it on the count of the fingers on one hand. Then you know how everything is about precision.

A perfect synergy from steering , engine , M-DCT gearbox , dynamics etc all working in tandem.

That precision is intact as is almost instant response. From at stop if you had the space you can be flying in a few seconds.
The biggest change is in how the lightweight features combine to the driving experience. This is the next step although I did not put it on the test track.

In public however this is not a car if you are inexperienced to show off in, although some will.

if we take the EPS steering that is specially developed for this car.
It is an absolute revelation , it communicates with the car very precisely there is no mistake that it is an M car its not recognisable if you are familiar with other models.
The steering wheel is also the perfect size and is well weighted and good to grip.

The "essence" is because this feels like a more powerful engine than what it actually is. If anyone was none the wiser they would guess its a V8 if they knew nothing whatsoever about this car.

There is something familiar but its very progressive its a new beginning to a very exciting tomorrow.

An example of the car.
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      02-03-2014, 02:30 PM   #142
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If you are perhaps more familiar with the E92 M3 than I am. I have only driven it on the count of the fingers on one hand. Then you know how everything is about precision.

A perfect synergy from steering , engine , M-DCT gearbox , dynamics etc all working in tandem.

That precision is intact as is almost instant response. From at stop if you had the space you can be flying in a few seconds.
The biggest change is in how the lightweight features combine to the driving experience. This is the next step although I did not put it on the test track.

In public however this is not a car if you are inexperienced to show off in, although some will.

if we take the EPS steering that is specially developed for this car.
It is an absolute revelation , it communicates with the car very precisely there is no mistake that it is an M car its not recognisable if you are familiar with other models.
The steering wheel is also the perfect size and is well weighted and good to grip.

The "essence" is because this feels like a more powerful engine than what it actually is. If anyone was none the wiser they would guess its a V8 if they knew nothing whatsoever about this car.

There is something familiar but its very progressive its a new beginning to a very exciting tomorrow.
Thank you Scott, that is pretty much the best scenario I'm hoping for. That the car will remain a precision tool and not turn into blunt, unpredictable, muscle beast. If that's the essence you are talking about combined with V8 like power levels from the six, great.
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This video simply shows that AW with silver wheels will be fantastic. Good to know.

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If you are perhaps more familiar with the E92 M3 than I am. I have only driven it on the count of the fingers on one hand. Then you know how everything is about precision.

A perfect synergy from steering , engine , M-DCT gearbox , dynamics etc all working in tandem.

That precision is intact as is almost instant response. From at stop if you had the space you can be flying in a few seconds.
The biggest change is in how the lightweight features combine to the driving experience. This is the next step although I did not put it on the test track.

In public however this is not a car if you are inexperienced to show off in, although some will.

if we take the EPS steering that is specially developed for this car.
It is an absolute revelation , it communicates with the car very precisely there is no mistake that it is an M car its not recognisable if you are familiar with other models.
The steering wheel is also the perfect size and is well weighted and good to grip.

The "essence" is because this feels like a more powerful engine than what it actually is. If anyone was none the wiser they would guess its a V8 if they knew nothing whatsoever about this car.

There is something familiar but its very progressive its a new beginning to a very exciting tomorrow.

An example of the car.

Effing 4 more months, god damn this wait.
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I know I know......sarcasm doesn't help. I just don't see the point of a Gran Coupe when there is already a 4 door. It makes sense with the M6 because the other two are coupes already. Just like the 4 series GC is going to be a tough sell. AND......what do we do with the GT? TOO MANY MODELS that step on each other at this point.
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      02-03-2014, 02:54 PM   #146
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The classic Alpine White...why did BMW choose all kinds of fancy colors for for the M3/M4 launch when the Alpine White looks better than all !
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The classic Alpine White...why did BMW choose all kinds of fancy colors for for the M3/M4 launch when the Alpine White looks better than all !
..because not everybody feels that way about AW.
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I know I know......sarcasm doesn't help. I just don't see the point of a Gran Coupe when there is already a 4 door. It makes sense with the M6 because the other two are coupes already. Just like the 4 series GC is going to be a tough sell. AND......what do we do with the GT? TOO MANY MODELS that step on each other at this point.
I think it's just the result of BMWs ambition and maybe need to become one of the securely free standing car giants with a more complete portfolio. Even if you have some overlap it's still IMO preferable with the same car in different shapes than for example VAG, Toyota, Honda, Nissan, GM that often have pretty much the same car with different badges.
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The classic Alpine White...why did BMW choose all kinds of fancy colors for for the M3/M4 launch when the Alpine White looks better than all !
Scott's image looks like Mineral White, which strongly tempts me. I used to think this color was just for "luxury" cars, but I may be convinced otherwise.
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Scott's image looks like Mineral White, which strongly tempts me. I used to think this color was just for "luxury" cars, but I may be convinced otherwise.
It reminds me of the Pearl White from Honda Preludes back in the late 90s.
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If you are perhaps more familiar with the E92 M3 than I am. I have only driven it on the count of the fingers on one hand. Then you know how everything is about precision.

A perfect synergy from steering , engine , M-DCT gearbox , dynamics etc all working in tandem.

That precision is intact as is almost instant response. From at stop if you had the space you can be flying in a few seconds.
The biggest change is in how the lightweight features combine to the driving experience. This is the next step although I did not put it on the test track.

In public however this is not a car if you are inexperienced to show off in, although some will.

if we take the EPS steering that is specially developed for this car.
It is an absolute revelation , it communicates with the car very precisely there is no mistake that it is an M car its not recognisable if you are familiar with other models.
The steering wheel is also the perfect size and is well weighted and good to grip.

The "essence" is because this feels like a more powerful engine than what it actually is. If anyone was none the wiser they would guess its a V8 if they knew nothing whatsoever about this car.

There is something familiar but its very progressive its a new beginning to a very exciting tomorrow.

An example of the car.
awesome!
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Hopefully they make a grand coupe M4
They do........its called the M3.
Actually no ... If u check now .. M4 grand coupe is trending
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If you are perhaps more familiar with the E92 M3 than I am. I have only driven it on the count of the fingers on one hand. Then you know how everything is about precision.

A perfect synergy from steering , engine , M-DCT gearbox , dynamics etc all working in tandem.

That precision is intact as is almost instant response. From at stop if you had the space you can be flying in a few seconds.
The biggest change is in how the lightweight features combine to the driving experience. This is the next step although I did not put it on the test track.

In public however this is not a car if you are inexperienced to show off in, although some will.

if we take the EPS steering that is specially developed for this car.
It is an absolute revelation , it communicates with the car very precisely there is no mistake that it is an M car its not recognisable if you are familiar with other models.
The steering wheel is also the perfect size and is well weighted and good to grip.

The "essence" is because this feels like a more powerful engine than what it actually is. If anyone was none the wiser they would guess its a V8 if they knew nothing whatsoever about this car.

There is something familiar but its very progressive its a new beginning to a very exciting tomorrow.

An example of the car.

That was some kind of poetry. Bring on the F8X!!!!
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