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I need to reconsider my trackdays, I often go With
http://www.granturismoevents.com And its 2990euro for this years event on Nurburgring. This is inklusive stay and some food and 2days on green hell. End 2016 I was at their SPA event, it was 2500euro for2 days on spa and 3 night stays and lunch and dinner inklusive. Then there is transport of cars and flights and rental cars 1000L of gasoline go easy on a 7 day tour driving on nur. Cup tires and ....we better notlook in to real cost. |
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Cool, that seems reasonable to me. Now when you start talking about thousands of dollars...I'll pass, I don't ball like that.
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Coming from the guy who doen't track his car
Well, not me. While it might be fun for a lap or two, Turistenfahrts are quite risky and fustrating if you want to push and explore the limits of your car like it can be done more safely on a real track day.
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It seems you have a lot of experience at the Nurburgring from the way you talk. But I did not find the Nurburgring dangerous at all on the public days at all, and quite enjoyed it. I think Captain Unknown GT4 and Swiss Chris is a frequent visitor on the public days and from their videos, they seem to be pushing their cars pretty hard and getting good lap times. |
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The point remains though, you cannot compare the cost of 3 turistenfahrt laps with a true track day, at the 'ring or elsewhere. And even if you do 2 hours worth (like you would usually get during a track day) of 'ring turistenfahrt laps at a decent pace , it would cost you north of 350EUR ($500CAD) for registration alone not even counting vehicle consumables.
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Some guys are always hyping up the god old green hell. Like you need 1000 of laps to even find your way. Its bull, its all depending on talent. Some drivers never been go instant superfast after 20laps other Will never go fast here even after 1000 laps. Sure respect the track, but do not turn it to a monster that Will bite you as soon as you set fot on track.
Relax and just drive, its just a fast country road. Drive when wet, you then got the track for your selfe. Here is a few moment when I drive My old CSL. Just play and have fun, no cars in the wet, and Now you learn the track. End of film its some drift pictures that My friend Jochen at frozenspeed did take. One of them even made it in to his yearbook fotobook. One must Always be on alert to hit fuel or coolant fluid or oil spil on Touristfharen and they never show flaggs to warn you on TF, a few lights but they Will never tell where. LIGHT could flash yellow as warning but accidente could be several km away. Thats the Big Safety difference vs trackdays and the crowd of cars on TF.(on trackdays, propper trackdayd they put guys all over track to warn With flaggs of fluid or crash, they do not on TF) Then again on Trackdays you can Max out, due to no cars and thats dangerus as Well, and if you go off then it over and out due to speed is so high for a fast driver. On TF(touristfharen) you never reach that Big speeds anyway. Also a fast driver in a fast car is more on the brakes than accelerator on Touristfharen at Times it could be fun, but Will never turn out a fast lap. Drive in the rain, then you got the track for your selfe. I Always do it, so god way to learn to drive a car. But the cup tires back then was slippery, as hell compared to new cup2. Last edited by Captain Unknown GT4; 01-03-2017 at 03:18 PM.. |
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"Driving" on Nordschleife on a tourist day versus tracking at your local trackday is very different. They are just different experience and explaining more to one that doesn't track their M's is just waste of time.
OP, if you can fork out all the expenses to bring your GTS out to a track, you need to do that at least once. |
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Any idea what would be the proper offset for 19's square? Thanks. |
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Not sure for a square setup. Tirerack had 19" FI-R listed for a while in staggered size but they took them down for some reason (i haven't tried calling yet to ask them why). I would start there though to see if they know.
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