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      07-10-2014, 12:18 PM   #1
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BMW M4 vs Audi RS5 vs Porsche Cayman S Comparison Review (Auto Express)

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Full stats and review: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/bmw/4-s...-s-vs-audi-rs5

Good result for M4. However it seems reviews from each magazine varies quite a bit.


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M4 vs Audi RS5 VS Porsche Cayman S Comparison Review (Auto Express)

Guess who comes out 1st?

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/bmw/4-s...-s-vs-audi-rs5
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Weird that they say the Porsche and BMW do 30-70mph in the same 3.5 seconds but then say 30-50mph in 3rd and 4th gear is massively faster in the BMW
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      07-10-2014, 03:13 PM   #6
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The RS5 acolytes will be here shortly to complain about everybody being against them. Be nice to them.
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      07-10-2014, 03:18 PM   #7
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So what's the excuse matrix going to be this time?
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That was to be expected!
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So what's the excuse matrix going to be this time?
I believe that it's Auto Express has a clear BMW bias and what do they know anyway and the Audi's sound system kicks ass and it's just so not fair. And remember the RS5 was within a second of the M4 on Schnitzengruber Ring in January.
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      07-10-2014, 03:32 PM   #10
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And another one. M4 FTMFW!!
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      07-10-2014, 05:01 PM   #11
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That yellow is soooo gorgeous!!!
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Interesting they recorded M4 doing 0-60 in 4.5 sec, while BMW official number is 3.9 sec.
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Interesting they recorded M4 doing 0-60 in 4.5 sec, while BMW official number is 3.9 sec.
Prob manual trans?
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No one (except maybe a pro) is going to record a sub 4 second 0-60 with the m3 m4. It simply has too much torque and power being fed to the rear wheels and not enough traction. I had a apr tuned b8 s4 that would consistently hit 4.1 seconds because of the power was distributed between all 4 wheels. The m3 m4 will not produce impressive 0 to 60 times in a consistent manner.
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They tested DCT equipped M4; with lunch control, pro or no pro should be getting same 0-60 times, all it takes is getting the revs up and releasing the brakes. What surprised me is that BMW official 0-60 times are usually conservative, easily repeated and/or exceeded by any auto mag.
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They tested DCT equipped M4; with lunch control, pro or no pro should be getting same 0-60 times, all it takes is getting the revs up and releasing the brakes. What surprised me is that BMW official 0-60 times are usually conservative, easily repeated and/or exceeded by any auto mag.
What exactly is "lunch" control? Something like this? Sorry, had to do it.
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What exactly is "lunch" control? Something like this? Sorry, had to do it.
LOL, I'm blaming the auto correct feature
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If you read the review, the Porsche really won, just like in the previous comparo. BMW edges out overall for flexibility, but Porsche wins the categories that matter most.
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... but Porsche wins the categories that matter most.
Which category would that be?
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If you read the review, the Porsche really won, just like in the previous comparo. BMW edges out overall for flexibility, but Porsche wins the categories that matter most.
Which is what? Track use two seater? Sure let me spend 90k for a car that is for track only, who gives a f I work for a living and need a DD/track car.
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The RS5 acolytes will be here shortly to complain about everybody being against them. Be nice to them.
Right on cue!

Here's some statements I adamantly disagree with:
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In isolation, the RS5 has plenty of high-performance kerb appeal, but it appears a little ordinary parked alongside the pumped-up BMW M4
The RS5 with its huge chain-mail grill and painted diffuser is one of the most unique looking cars out there (particularly for the money) and it turns heads everywhere it goes even 2 years after it's been released people still take pictures of my car on the freeway. Far from "ordinary" looking. If anything the M4 is the one that looks similar to the 435i coupe. (The M3 looks much different than the 335i).

Here's another quote I disagree with.

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the design is starting to look a bit dated, particularly the graphics on the MMI infotainment screen.
Wow. RS5 MMI has Google Street View and Google Earth that looks crisp as fck. You can knock the MMI for being slow, but looking dated? hell no.

Also in the video the driver also says the Audi's traction control system can't be disabled which is false.

Lastly,there seems to be quite a few edits to the online version than what was printed in the magazine. The online versions is much less biased sounding, more accurate, and less enthusiastic about the M4 than what was printed in the magazine

Example 1:
Online version for RS5:
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Residual values should be quite strong - the RS5 is relatively rare, keeping second hand prices high.
Magazine for RS5:
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Making matters worse, its [RS5] predicted residuals of 41.6 percent are the worst here
Example 2:
The online version also completely leaves out this part which was printed in the magazine which I think is a bit overblown:

Magazine for M4 (left out of online):
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NO matter what angle you view it from, you're unlikely to mistake the M4 for an ordinary 4 series Coupe.
Example 3
Here's another contraction for the M4:
Online for M4
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Then thereís the way it revs. While it may rev almost as high as the V8 with a redline of 7,300rpm, after 5,500rpm you have already reached the full 425bhp. This means that for the next 2,000rpm there is no more sensation of power building so you donít get the urge to chase the red-line
contrast that with

Magazine for M4 (no mention of the above quote)
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Like its predecessors, the BMW's straight six rips round to is 7300 rpm redline with incredible ferocity
Now all that said the rest of the comments are fairly accurate and the M4 won fair and square (probably not as a big a margin as the read suggests though). Is the M4 a better car than the RS5? CHYEAH It BETTER BE since it's the new cycle. Now pick on someone else's car to compare ya selves too until the B9 comes out
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Wow, he hit the entire excuse matrix in one post.

That's impressive
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