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      09-25-2015, 08:46 AM   #89
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Curious why MDM for DD "traffic" mode ?
DD does not necessarily mean "traffic" .

I find regular DSC just too bloody intrusive. Euro MDM is just perfect.

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So it activates only in D?interesting... But you drive in S1 so I guess it doesn't activate for you.
When I come to a traffic light, I flick the lever in D and the engine shuts down. I get the best of both worlds .

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Why not Sports+, do you see some shortcoming here?
Sport+ is a bit too twitchy for street use. It is perfect for high speed high RPM driving, very precise. However, it can make driving jerky at low speeds or when taking off from a stop.

I have to admit, I go back and forth between Sport and Sport+ Engine setting for sporty street driving. But I generally prefer the Sport setting.

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I have been alway curious about S+ steering, I must be very weak, but I find it very heavy. Can you elaborate on its application or intended usage in this situation?
I also used the Sport steering setting until I read a comment from Racer20 stating how he felt the steering was well weighed in Sport+, so I decided to give it a try. I found out I like it very much. I do find it very heavy at crawling speeds though. That is why my DD setting is in Comfort.

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I guess you don't have adaptive suspension, so is what is the equivalent mode of a car without it to car with it? Sports mode? Thanks you!
EDC = Electronic Damper Control = Adaptive suspension

There is no true equivalent between the adaptive and non-adaptive. However, comments from BMW mention it fits somewhere between Sport and Sport+.
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      09-25-2015, 10:32 AM   #90
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Sport+ is a bit too twitchy for street use. It is perfect for high speed high RPM driving, very precise. However, it can make driving jerky at low speeds or when taking off from a stop.

I have to admit, I go back and forth between Sport and Sport+ Engine setting for sporty street driving. But I generally prefer the Sport setting.
thanks for confirming that, i thought i didnt know how to drive and my wife always made fun of me when i had S+ for engine !
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EDC = Electronic Damper Control = Adaptive suspension
Engineers you had to change the word, in post 68, you used "suspension" like most common people, and in post 86, you switched to "EDC", thanks for the correction! (i realized that when my comments got moved to this thread, i thought i was going crazy, i reply to one thread and end up in another)
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      09-25-2015, 11:07 AM   #91
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Since start settings are, "Efficient/Sport/Sport" I use M1 "Efficient/Comfort/Comfort" & M2 "Sport Plus/Sport Plus/Sport Plus" with traction off. Driving in M1 most of time to keep it kosher. :-)
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Engineers you had to change the word, in post 68, you used "suspension" like most common people, and in post 86, you switched to "EDC", thanks for the correction! (i realized that when my comments got moved to this thread, i thought i was going crazy, i reply to one thread and end up in another)


Well with the mods moving things around it does make things a little confusing. Post #86 was originally posted in the thread "preferred drive settings". I posted 3 preferred setting depending on the context: DD, Sporty-street and Track. I am not sure why it was moved over here.

In this thread, I always used "Suspension" because the is what the OP requested. I just used EDC in the other thread. BTW, EDC is how the "Adaptive Suspension" was called on the E9X .
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      09-25-2015, 11:55 AM   #93
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Since start settings are, "Efficient/Sport/Sport" I use M1 "Efficient/Comfort/Comfort" Driving in M1 most of time to keep it kosher. :-)
Same here .

I just wish they would have made Efficient/Comfort/Comfort the default start-up (or even user configurable) so I don't have to waste an M-button for my DD setup.
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Right now my M1 is Sport throttle, Sport suspension and Sport Steering, MDM, with M View on the HUD. M2 is my night/highway/cruising setting: Efficient throttle, Comfort Suspension, Comfort Steering and regular HUD display.
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commuter key:
M1 = efficient, comfort, comfort
M2 = sport, sport, sport, MDM

fun key:
M1 = sport, sport, sport, MDM
M2 = sport plus, sport plus, sport plus, TC Off
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commuter key:
M1 = efficient, comfort, comfort
M2 = sport, sport, sport, MDM

fun key:
M1 = sport, sport, sport, MDM
M2 = sport plus, sport plus, sport plus, TC Off


You just opened my eyes to something. I found it slightly annoying that I had to re-configure my M-button settings every time I was at the track and then change them back after the track day. I just realized all I need to do is create a third user profile in iDrive called "Track" and program M1 with my dry track setup (Sport+/Sport+/Sport+/S3/DSC-off) and M2 with my wet track setup (Sport/Sport/Sport+/S2/MDM) in that user profile. When I get to the track, I simply have to switch to the "Track" user profile in iDrive et voilą. After the track day is done, I simply reselect my personal profile for my street setup .

Note: You don't need to change keys to change user profiles

Thanks again for that flash
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You just opened my eyes to something. I found it slightly annoying that I had to re-configure my M-button settings every time I was at the track and then change them back after the track day. I just realized all I need to do is create a third user profile in iDrive called "Track" and program M1 with my dry track setup (Sport+/Sport+/Sport+/S3/DSC-off) and M2 with my wet track setup (Sport/Sport/Sport+/S2/MDM) in that user profile. When I get to the track, I simply have to switch to the "Track" user profile in iDrive et voilą. After the track day is done, I simply reselect my personal profile for my street setup .

Note: You don't need to change keys to change user profiles

Thanks again for that flash
yes, i got the idea from another member who had (rather ingeniously) programmed one of the multipurpose buttons (in all profiles) to toggle profiles, thereby having multiple sets of multipurpose buttons.
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yes, i got the idea from another member who had (rather ingeniously) programmed one of the multipurpose buttons (in all profiles) to toggle profiles, thereby having multiple sets of multipurpose buttons.
Man, I really owe you one . I am loving this .

I just went out and programmed my "Track" profile in my car. So profile-1 is my Street setup, profile-2 is my Wife's setup and profile-3 is my Track setup.

I did as you suggested and programmed button 6 to toggle between my street and track profiles. Further than just the M1 and M2 settings, I also changed all sorts of stuff between my street and track profiles.

For example, street -> track profiles:
  • A/C on -> A/C off
  • HVAC recirculation auto -> HVAC recirculation off
  • HVAC in middle setting -> HVAC in lowest setting
  • Digital speedo off -> Digital speedo on
  • Music on -> Music off
  • Doors lock when driving on -> Doors lock when driving off
  • Audio chime when locking on -> Audio chime when locking off
  • Auto Start/Stop on -> Auto Start/Stop off

I also changed the programmable buttons for track functions:
  1. Split screen on/off
  2. iDrive screen off
  3. ///M Laptimer
  4. Vehicle Info (to reset FTM)
  5. Weather (BMW Online)
  6. Change to "Street" profile
  7. Power display
  8. TBD

This rocks
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That is awesome, specially that profiles are not tied to keys! I thought they were. So when you choose a key, what settings/profile does the car use?
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That is awesome, specially that profiles are not tied to keys! I thought they were. So when you choose a key, what settings/profile does the car use?
The key remembers the last profile that was used.
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Man, I really owe you one . I am loving this ....

For example, street -> track profiles:
  • A/C on -> A/C off
  • HVAC recirculation auto -> HVAC recirculation off
  • HVAC in middle setting -> HVAC in lowest setting
  • Digital speedo off -> Digital speedo on
  • Music on -> Music off
  • Doors lock when driving on -> Doors lock when driving off
  • Audio chime when locking on -> Audio chime when locking off
  • Auto Start/Stop on -> Auto Start/Stop off
...

This rocks
Going as far as you do for track profile, might as well just turn off completely the HVAC recirculation fan button, but then again it's a whole extra button to push and we all know by now what that does to you!
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Going as far as you do for track profile, might as well just turn off completely the HVAC recirculation fan button, but then again it's a whole extra button to push and we all know by now what that does to you!
I did try . But HVAC always comes back the lowest setting instead of completely off when I switch profile .

Just to clarify though, I don't mind the pressing of buttons. What I find annoying is having a wasted configuration (the start-up configuration) on a highly configurable car. I was happy to hear that we would get 2 M-buttons on the F8X as on the M5/6 for two levels of romp modes . When I found out we were getting the fixed and useless (to me) Efficient/Sport/Sport start-up default, I figured that I would simply press the Suspension and Steering buttons twice each when I drive off and be done with it. But very annoyingly, when you switch off an M-mode, it reverts back to the useless default setting instead of remembering you last setting . That means I need to waste an M-button for my DD comfy setting .
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M1
- Throttle: Efficient
- Suspension: Comfort
- Steering: Comfort
- Transmission: D2
- DSC: On
- HUD: Default

M2
- Throttle: Sport+
- Suspension: Sport
- Steering: Sport
- Transmission: S3
- DSC: MDM
- HUD: M View
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Very good Point Sir "CanAutM3" ;-) ...@Racer20: Did you switch off DSC completely on the track?

I chose "pussy mode" on my M1 for warm up
EDC: comfort
Steering: sport (think it's perfect for everything)
Transmission: D2
Throttle: efficient
DSC: on

M2 for going fast on my Blackforest roads (many nice turns, little traffic, superb surface)
EDC: Sport
Steering: Sport
Transmission: S3
Throttle: Sport+
DSC: off

I'd love to have third M button where i could store my M2 set up with MDM and S2 Transmission (as S3 doesn't really work with MDM/DSC and cuts your power abruptly)
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Update based on input from valued members.

M1: daily driver, traffic mode.
- Throttle: Efficient
- EDC: Comfort
- Steering: Comfort
- Transmission: D2 (switch to S when not in traffic)
- DSC: On
- HUD: Default
- Start/Stop: Off

M2: spirited mode
- Throttle: Sport
- EDC: Sport
- Steering: Sport+
- Transmission: D2 (can switch to S by flicking the shifters)
- DSC: Euro MDM
- HUD: M View
- Start/Stop: Off
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2 weeks in and here's what I have mine at

M1: (Daily drive/commuter/dad setting)
- Throttle: Sport
- Suspension: Comfort
- Steering: Comfort
- Transmission: D1 (easy switch to D2 or D3 if traffic let's up...)
- DSC: On


M2: (spirited/solo setting)
- Throttle: Sport Plus
- Suspension: Sport
- Steering: Sport
- Transmission: S3
- DSC: On
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CanAutM3 You've just made my day and maybe my week with that info. That's really awesome for switching between DD and track setups without having to worry about extra keys. Damn!!! This needs it's own thread.
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CanAutM3 You've just made my day and maybe my week with that info. That's really awesome for switching between DD and track setups without having to worry about extra keys. Damn!!! This needs it's own thread.
Great, glad I could help

I did create a thread for this idea in the the track section :

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1177192
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M1: Sport Setting
- Throttle: Sport
- Suspension: Sport plus
- Steering: Sport
- DSC: MDM euro


M2: Daily Setting
- Throttle: Sport
- Suspension: Comfort
- Steering: Sport
- DSC: MDM Euro

Once my winters are on I'll reprogram them to something like this:

M1: Hoon/Deep snow
- Throttle: Efficient
- Suspension: Comfort
- Steering: Sport
- DSC: Full off

M2: Daily
- Throttle: Sport
- Suspension: Comfort
- Steering: Sport
- DSC: MDM euro

I think I'll need efficient throttle for slippery conditions and being able to go DSC full off with a couple taps will be beneficial to avoid getting stuck. I'll test it out when conditions warrant it.
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Does anyone prefer the longer gear ratios as a default? Curious to hear your thoughts as to why

Edit: trying to determine the best setting for M1
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