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2015 F80 M3 vs. C63 S AMG and ATS-V instrumented comparison test by Car and Driver
BIMMERPOST NEWS 2015 M3 vs. Mercedes-AMG C63 S, Cadillac ATS-V comparison test by Car and Driver In its latest comparison test, Car and Driver pits the M3 versus the closest rival sedans currently available - the C63S AMG and the ATS-V. With its direct rivals ever improving, can the M3 stave off the impressive competition? Read the full results and review at Car and Driver. Here is what they had to say about the 2015 M3, along with the instrumented test results and final rankings. Quote:
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The very quick 19.8s to 150 and 122 trap really sticks out for the ATS-V.....as does the hideous looks which, from a this potential buyer's standpoint, nullifies the aforementioned stats.
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^ this. The looks are a real head scratcher. Seems in Caddy's mind everything needs to look like an escalde to sell. For near enough as makes no difference money the M3 is way better looking than the other two. They are all so close when it comes to performance on any track it's likely not much more than a drivers race. All in all a good time to be an enthusiast in this segment.
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08-18-2015, 10:57 AM | #8 |
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Rear seat room.
This was the biggest selling point for me. My kids are getting bigger and will be my size in a few years. I had to make sure they could sit behind me. I set the drivers seat in an ATS and hoped in the rear seat behind it. My '06 G35 was more roomy and comfortable. Not an upgrade in any respect in my eyes. The M3 on the other hand Honestly, I was close to getting an M5.
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A BMW outsteered by a Cadillac?
As a German guy once told me. "Zis is shocking!!" Usually Cadillacs have a rudder to help steer the boat.
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08-18-2015, 11:11 AM | #10 |
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The 0-150 time for the Caddy is shockingly good - 3-4 seconds faster than the M3 or C63. That Caddy must be seriously underrated.
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Love the M3. Love the unique rear quarter panel!!
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Wow, talk about tight competition. I love that they take note of the unique body panels on the M3. That really makes the car's design stand out amongst the competition, IMO.
I really wish I had an opportunity to get some seat time in the ATS-V. After having spent a few days of quality time in an F80, I'm struggling to comprehend how the ATS-V can outclass the F80 in the steering department. While not particularly feelsome, the steering in the M3 goes exactly where directed. The F80 M3 felt almost telegraphic as I input steering. The ATS-V must be something special.
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dct or manual?
how's the transmission an 8?!
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"It’s also the loudest car, the inline-six crescendoing at its 7500-rpm redline with a glorious racing rasp augmented by a subtle bass line from the stereo system. We pulled the radio fuse, No. 123 on the electrical box in the trunk incidentally, to see how the M3 sounds sans electronics. It sounds tough, though with some of the tinniness of the E46 M3 that, with the fuse back in, gets softened."
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Can anyone tell me what a rear quarter panel stamping is?
I thought it was a crease or fold but I've seen lots of cars with that since I read this article a couple months ago.
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The thing I hate about these comparison tests are some categories are so subjective. Rear seat comfort, ergonomics, fit and finish, etc. can easily put one car over the other. and the outcome can be whatever they deem necessary and make the outcome seem as close or as far apart as they feel.
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"It’s also the loudest car," <- that was surprising, when considering the c63 has a V8. Kuddos to Cadillac, can't believe they are out-handling the germans.
The real winners today is us the consumers, all this competition brings the best out of automotive manufacturers
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They're mentioning the rear 1/4 panel of the M3 because that wide flare is unique to the F80 and is not on the standard 3 series. Compared to the competition the Ats-V and C63 use more carry over body work from the standard models to the performance models, less unique body parts |
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I've seen the ATS-V in person. IMHO, this car by far, is NOT ugly in the least. The thing that got me was the sticker price being raised by about $30K over the base ATS cars that are around $35K. For the $70 large, the M3 made more sense (even if the cars tested were well above that). The Caddy is under-tired vs the competition and still pulled over 1g where the others didn't. This car is badass. I'd have one..just not at sticker or taking the depreciation hit that will come with it. And NOT in that color. I saw it in a deep blue with the trim black. It's pretty striking looking.
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