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      12-21-2015, 11:57 AM   #1
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Quick lap to be only 2.8 sec slower than the 991 GT3.

It will be interesting to see if independent tests can back up this speed at various tracks.
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Note that this is a Sport Auto lap, not a full lap.
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Quick lap to be only 2.8 sec slower than the 991 GT3.

It will be interesting to see if independent tests can back up this speed at various tracks.
Have you ever seen a video of the 991 GT3 7:25 lap?
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Note that this is a Sport Auto lap, not a full lap.
When Sport Auto ran 991 GT3 (not with a Porsche driver obviously), they hit 7:32 at the ring.
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Note that this is a Sport Auto lap, not a full lap.
That is a negative. This is 1 FULL LAP of the Nurburgring Nordschleife. When vehicles are tested at Nurburgring they do not mate together the GP and Nordschleife together. The tracks are mated for the endurance races, not for testing.

Also, Sport Auto is not the group doing this hot lap. BMW is doing this one specifically. It would have said so on the video at the beginning if it was Sport Auto and as of lately they have been doing those hot laps on the Hockenheim Kleiner Kurs.

Wonder how the got around the speed ban on Dottinger Hohe........
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Note that this is a Sport Auto lap, not a full lap.

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That is a negative. This is 1 FULL LAP of the Nurburgring Nordschleife. When vehicles are tested at Nurburgring they do not mate together the GP and Nordschleife together. The tracks are mated for the endurance races, not for testing.

Also, Sport Auto is not the group doing this hot lap. BMW is doing this one specifically. It would have said so on the video at the beginning if it was Sport Auto and as of lately they have been doing those hot laps on the Hockenheim Kleiner Kurs.

Wonder how the got around the speed ban on Dottinger Hohe........

Elsabor67 is correct. This lap is on the entire Nordschleife. It does not include running on the Grand Prix section - just about no one runs the two courses together for "lap time" sake. Everyone runs the 'Ring Nordschleife course - which is what is shown in this video.

Elsabor67 quite interesting about the Dottinger Hohe speed limits. Maybe this video/lap was filmed before that happened this summer. ?

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Elsabor67 is correct. This lap is on the entire Nordschleife. It does not include running on the Grand Prix section - just about no one runs the two courses together for "lap time" sake. Everyone runs the 'Ring Nordschleife course - which is what is shown in this video.

Elsabor67 quite interesting about the Dottinger Hohe speed limits. Maybe this video/lap was filmed before that happened this summer. ?

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The ban went into effect right after the GTR accident in march-april timeframe before the 24hour race. This lap was done after that by what it looks.
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Elsabor67 is correct. This lap is on the entire Nordschleife. It does not include running on the Grand Prix section - just about no one runs the two courses together for "lap time" sake. Everyone runs the 'Ring Nordschleife course - which is what is shown in this video.

Elsabor67 quite interesting about the Dottinger Hohe speed limits. Maybe this video/lap was filmed before that happened this summer. ?

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Look at the video closely, the timing starts at the "old pit out" and ends at the white line just before the pits. It is not a complete 20.8km lap of the Nordschleife since the ~200m length of the "pits" is not timed. IIRC, this is the 20.6km Sport Auto lap (see below).
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That is a negative. This is 1 FULL LAP of the Nurburgring Nordschleife. When vehicles are tested at Nurburgring they do not mate together the GP and Nordschleife together. The tracks are mated for the endurance races, not for testing.

Also, Sport Auto is not the group doing this hot lap. BMW is doing this one specifically. It would have said so on the video at the beginning if it was Sport Auto and as of lately they have been doing those hot laps on the Hockenheim Kleiner Kurs.

Wonder how the got around the speed ban on Dottinger Hohe........
^ See post above

I am well aware that this lap is done by BMW and not SA
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Look at the video closely, the timing starts at "pit out" and ends at the white line just before the pits. It is not a complete lap since the ~200m length of the "pits" is not timed. IIRC, this is the Sport Auto lap.
100% correct!

Sport Auto lap has never been the combination of the GP track and the Nordschleife. It's almost the entire track, but without that little piece of tarmac that you point out.
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Elsabor67 is correct. This lap is on the entire Nordschleife. It does not include running on the Grand Prix section - just about no one runs the two courses together for "lap time" sake. Everyone runs the 'Ring Nordschleife course - which is what is shown in this video.

Elsabor67 quite interesting about the Dottinger Hohe speed limits. Maybe this video/lap was filmed before that happened this summer. ?

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It says Autumn 2015, so definitely after.

But the speed limit was eventually lifted during manufacturer days at the Ring. The ring is then only open to the manufacturers.
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That is a negative. This is 1 FULL LAP of the Nurburgring Nordschleife. When vehicles are tested at Nurburgring they do not mate together the GP and Nordschleife together. The tracks are mated for the endurance races, not for testing.

Also, Sport Auto is not the group doing this hot lap. BMW is doing this one specifically. It would have said so on the video at the beginning if it was Sport Auto and as of lately they have been doing those hot laps on the Hockenheim Kleiner Kurs.

Wonder how the got around the speed ban on Dottinger Hohe........
Sport Auto still does the Nordschleife laps for their Supertests. Nothing has changed there (I subscribe and read every issue of the magazine)

The term "Sport Auto lap" is explained in other posts above. The M4 GTS lap is definitely a "Sport Auto lap", driven by BMW test driver and for BMW
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I guessed 7.27.93

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What happens after they mate the tracks? Do they have babies?
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I entered 7.27.88 fingers crossed!!
Very impressive lap time
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