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      04-01-2017, 06:51 AM   #1035
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While you are correct that the part number is the same, this topic has been discussed extensively elsewhere. According the the BMW engineer I spoke to during the factory tour in Munich, there were internal changes made that improved the sound. The part numbers stayed the same because it is still an exact fit for either a 2015 or a 2016 (or probably the standard 2017). My 2016 sounds completely different than my neighbor's 2015, which bears out his statements.

Having said this, it still kind of sucks, and I'd take an MPE or a ZCP exhaust any day of the week!


I call on this.

I've listened to 2015 and 2016 side by side and they sound exactly the same. There however seem to be changes in the valve control logic in more recent software versions. The CP Sport exhaust does have different internals though.
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      04-14-2017, 10:04 PM   #1036
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Purchased a zcp f83 as a spur of the moment purchase. Only car on the lot and it had zcp. Would of preferred not to spend the extra money but got a good deal on the car


So I know the comp comes with larger 666 wheels
More hp
Different suspension
Some black accents

But is there anything else

Seeing a lot of people posting videos with aftermarket mid pipes with zcp rear. Is the muffler different

Obviously the tune is different with the higher HP but does the car have overrun burble added

I have driven 4 m4 and everyone had comp. my dealer only orders with them
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      04-14-2017, 10:04 PM   #1037
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From the sticky at the top of this page:

Summary:
Power output: 444 HP
0-60 DCT: 3.8 seconds (sedan/coupe), 4.1 seconds (convertible)
Tuned Adaptive M Suspension
New Springs
New Dampers
New Anti-Roll Bars
Reconfigured driving modes (Comfort, Sport and Sport+)
Reconfigured Active M Differential and DSC Dynamic Stability Control
Forged, machine-polished, weight-and rigidity-optimized, multi-spoke 20-inch M alloy wheels (front 9J 20; rear10 J 20) Mixed tires sizes (front: 265/30 R20, rear: 285/30 R20)
Special lightweight M sports seats
Seatbelts with woven-in BMW M stripes cap
M sports exhaust system with black chrome tailpipes
BMW Individual high-gloss Shadow Line exterior trim
High-gloss Black finish on the BMW kidney grille, the side gills and the model badge on the tail
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      04-25-2017, 03:22 PM   #1038
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Well worth the additional costs for what you get, but not if you planned to do aftermarket wheels/exhaust right away.
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      04-25-2017, 04:45 PM   #1039
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      04-27-2017, 07:04 PM   #1040
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Looks like a solid package but the low hp improvement is its greatest failure.

No better selling point then being able to crow from the roof tops +50hp.
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      04-28-2017, 12:26 AM   #1041
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Just got the 2017 F80 with competition package. The car is an absolute beast. Definitely feels like more than 450hp and the new exhaust is absolutely crazy. From a stand still without launch control or power breaking I can bake first, second and half of third lol. What would be the best rear tires on the 19" wheels??
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      07-17-2017, 09:48 PM   #1042
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      08-04-2017, 08:39 PM   #1043
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Ok, I am about to order a 2018 M3 with ZCP. My dealer swears that the car has not other exhaust than the regular M3. He claims it?s the regular exhaust and bmw did away with the sport exhaust that was part of the ZCP package. True?
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      08-04-2017, 08:47 PM   #1044
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Ok, I am about to order a 2018 M3 with ZCP. My dealer swears that the car has not other exhaust than the regular M3. He claims it?s the regular exhaust and bmw did away with the sport exhaust that was part of the ZCP package. True?
False. Your CA is a moron. It is a sport exhaust. It is different than the regular exhaust. BMW has not gotten rid of anything. If it doesnt have black tips run quickly in the opposite direction and find a new dealer.
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      08-04-2017, 08:50 PM   #1045
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Ok, I am about to order a 2018 M3 with ZCP. My dealer swears that the car has not other exhaust than the regular M3. He claims it?s the regular exhaust and bmw did away with the sport exhaust that was part of the ZCP package. True?
False. Your CA is a moron. It is a sport exhaust. It is different than the regular exhaust. BMW has not gotten rid of anything. If it doesnt have black tips run quickly in the opposite direction and find a new dealer.
Wouldn?t be the first time I know more than my dealer.....they are good at blah blah blah.....
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      08-05-2017, 08:58 PM   #1046
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Wouldn?t be the first time I know more than my dealer.....they are good at blah blah blah.....
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BMW Competition Package upgrades

- Power output: 444 HP (output increase of +19 HP)
0-60 DCT: 3.8 seconds (sedan/coupe), 4.1 seconds (convertible)
- M Sports exhaust system with black chrome exhaust tailpipes
- Tuned Adaptive M Suspension (SA 2VF) with new settings
- New Springs
- New Dampers
- New Anti-Roll Bars
- Reconfigured driving modes (Comfort, Sport and Sport+)
- New Settings for DSC / Active M Differential
- Exclusive 20" M light allow wheels Star-spoke style 666M Forged, machine-polished, weight-and rigidity-optimized, multi-spoke wheels (front 9J 20; rear10 J 20) Mixed tires sizes (front: 265/30 R20, rear: 285/30 R20)
- M Seats with break-through elements in seat back (Coupe/Sedan only); deletion of lumbar support
- Seatbelts with woven-in BMW M stripes (Coupe/Sedan only)
- BMW Individual high-gloss Shadow Line with extended content: kidney frame, grill, rear model designation in Black high-gloss, including regular SA760 content

$5500 for sedan/coupe, $5000 for convertible

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      08-06-2017, 10:44 PM   #1047
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Wouldn?t be the first time I know more than my dealer.....they are good at blah blah blah.....
Show this post to your dealer:

BMW Competition Package upgrades

- Power output: 444 HP (output increase of +19 HP)
0-60 DCT: 3.8 seconds (sedan/coupe), 4.1 seconds (convertible)
- M Sports exhaust system with black chrome exhaust tailpipes
- Tuned Adaptive M Suspension (SA 2VF) with new settings
- New Springs
- New Dampers
- New Anti-Roll Bars
- Reconfigured driving modes (Comfort, Sport and Sport+)
- New Settings for DSC / Active M Differential
- Exclusive 20" M light allow wheels Star-spoke style 666M Forged, machine-polished, weight-and rigidity-optimized, multi-spoke wheels (front 9J 20; rear10 J 20) Mixed tires sizes (front: 265/30 R20, rear: 285/30 R20)
- M Seats with break-through elements in seat back (Coupe/Sedan only); deletion of lumbar support
- Seatbelts with woven-in BMW M stripes (Coupe/Sedan only)
- BMW Individual high-gloss Shadow Line with extended content: kidney frame, grill, rear model designation in Black high-gloss, including regular SA760 content

$5500 for sedan/coupe, $5000 for convertible

Well they claim it went away for MY 2018. That?s why the price decreased. According to them....
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      08-07-2017, 08:56 AM   #1048
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Originally Posted by drjoe66 View Post
Wouldn?t be the first time I know more than my dealer.....they are good at blah blah blah.....
Show this post to your dealer:

BMW Competition Package upgrades

- Power output: 444 HP (output increase of +19 HP)
0-60 DCT: 3.8 seconds (sedan/coupe), 4.1 seconds (convertible)
- M Sports exhaust system with black chrome exhaust tailpipes
- Tuned Adaptive M Suspension (SA 2VF) with new settings
- New Springs
- New Dampers
- New Anti-Roll Bars
- Reconfigured driving modes (Comfort, Sport and Sport+)
- New Settings for DSC / Active M Differential
- Exclusive 20" M light allow wheels Star-spoke style 666M Forged, machine-polished, weight-and rigidity-optimized, multi-spoke wheels (front 9J 20; rear10 J 20) Mixed tires sizes (front: 265/30 R20, rear: 285/30 R20)
- M Seats with break-through elements in seat back (Coupe/Sedan only); deletion of lumbar support
- Seatbelts with woven-in BMW M stripes (Coupe/Sedan only)
- BMW Individual high-gloss Shadow Line with extended content: kidney frame, grill, rear model designation in Black high-gloss, including regular SA760 content

$5500 for sedan/coupe, $5000 for convertible

Well they claim it went away for MY 2018. That?s why the price decreased. According to them....
Fake news mmmkay
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