Piston Heads: M3 ZCP vs Giulia QV vs C63 S

[dkhm3]

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Starting to see a pattern with the Guilia in practically every review, and not in a good way.

[Zayzel]

Sitting here at work listening to these 3 review the cars in the background with iphone earbuds in... busted out laughing last 30 seconds of the video. Thanks for this

[Bizall]

Nice comparison, but that's too bad about the Alfa. I suppose it's not about what you could do, but only about what you actually did.

[domino_z]

are there any reviews where an alfa doesn't shit itself

this is becoming hilarious, never seen an epic failure rate like this with a car before

[KevinM]

Wow. I guess stereotypes have their uses. The more recent stereotype for M3s is that since the E46 the cars are initially not warmly received by the press, but by the end of their cycle they are again the benchmark. Rinse and repeat.

(Now, I will say that I do consider the early 2000s a high point for M, but I'm biased.)

[FC]

Originally Posted by KevinM

Wow. I guess stereotypes have their uses. The more recent stereotype for M3s is that since the E46 the cars are initially not warmly received by the press, but by the end of their cycle they are again the benchmark. Rinse and repeat.

(Now, I will say that I do consider the early 2000s a high point for BMW, but I'm biased.)

Fixed.

[KevinM]

Originally Posted by FC

Fixed.

Agreed. One of the best cars I ever owned was a 2002 E39 530i 5-speed manual transmission (which followed my 1999 528i 5-speed, my first BMW). What a well-balanced car. I keep thinking about adding another one but I'm out of garage space and have too many cars anyway.

[dr.mba]

Originally Posted by KevinM

Agreed. One of the best cars I ever owned was a 2002 E39 530i 5-speed manual transmission (which followed my 1999 528i 5-speed, my first BMW). What a well-balanced car. I keep thinking about adding another one but I'm out of garage space and have too many cars anyway.

Really happy to hear this and hope one day I could say the same thing

M

[Ghetto2315]

Originally Posted by KevinM

Agreed. One of the best cars I ever owned was a 2002 E39 530i 5-speed manual transmission (which followed my 1999 528i 5-speed, my first BMW). What a well-balanced car. I keep thinking about adding another one but I'm out of garage space and have too many cars anyway.

I have an 2001 E39 540i 6-Speed in my garage and it's still one of the best cars I have ever had

[Hurricane]

I can't believe the car broke down on the track. That is priceless.

[Eddien123]

Originally Posted by KevinM

Wow. I guess stereotypes have their uses. The more recent stereotype for M3s is that since the E46 the cars are initially not warmly received by the press, but by the end of their cycle they are again the benchmark. Rinse and repeat.

(Now, I will say that I do consider the early 2000s a high point for M, but I'm biased.)

Or perhaps everyone's progressively getting worse? Standards are being lowered. New M comes out and it isn't much compared to the outgoing model as seen in reviews. After it's lifespan is over, and after comparing to other cars out there (cars that already failed to compete with M) the once thought to be disappointing M car, now shines. Newer cars are on paper, better than the old cars but they certainly lose their soul.

[alex2364]

I busted out laughing at the 3 minute mark.

[JustChris]

Marketing disaster that press car for Alfa! Whoops! 1 lap did he say plus perhaps the trip to Anglesey :

[IK6SPEED]

M3 kicking ass in the segment! What a great thing to watch!

[vladberca]

M3 Competition is the sweet spot of the range.
And nobody can touch it on track.
Not taking into account straight line performance.

[Crashnbrn5]

This is fkin great. Lol

[Zeroblade]

Supposedly this was a pre production Alfa but even so, never seem a pre production car fail. Just continues the tradition Alfa's aren't reliable. I don't care what this car can do. Don't mean shit if it breaks on use. I really really like the interior but outside its fugly. Think there's also another video that says its not very practical either. So its a fail in reliability, looks and use. Stay away.

[akcheng]

BMW FTW!

[goj]

Great review for the M3. All these cars are cool. Too bad the Alfa has all these issues. I love the idea of an Italian super saloon

[RobC2]

Very nice showing for the M3.

[dantm3]

Look guys.. true fact
87.56% of all Alfas built are still on the road.


















The other 12.44% made it home .

[dantm3]

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