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      11-30-2017, 01:57 PM   #45
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M2 CS 82k??
No CS is being built. Only Comptiton and CSL.
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      11-30-2017, 01:59 PM   #46
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While I was all about to give all my money to buy the M3 CS, it is $7,000 too much for my liking (so not really all my money). At that price, might as well go with an M5 or a 911. Looks like normal comp pack for me!
What new M5 you get @97K
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Thats BMWs point. to make this their competitor. if porsche is getting those prices, why cant they? People are still paying it and they have the m2 to fill the void left in the lower end to be the e46 m3 replacement when it comes to pricing.

This is m5 pricing and the m5 has moved up in price as well. car pricing has gone bonkers in recent years. a loaded toyota camry is 42k now...
M3/4 is and never will be a competitor to the 911 so long as they continue to bring a knife into a gun fight.

The CS/GTS are produced in highly limited numbers to appeal to M fan boppers. The CS is an end of life special. No more, no less.
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      11-30-2017, 01:59 PM   #48
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Wow $30,000 over my 2016 M3 build which had full leather and lots of options.

$90k I would consider, but this is nuts. No doubt they will sell out though. Enough people have the spare change.
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What new M5 you get @97K
Point being that for what, $6k more, I can get an M5 or a nicely options 911. That is all. I did not mean that I would get the M5 at that price, although with ED it is certainly possible.
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Commencing rush to purchase leftover M4GTS ~$100k in 3.....................2.................1....
So you think there is this large group of people waiting for CS pricing, before they purchase unsold and used GTS’s?

All this is...is more overpriced cars that will sit on dealer lots. These will drop in price just like the unsold GTS models. This isn’t some trigger to help move GTS inventory.
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No M4 CS pricing yet? Both available next March?
The Road and Track article states it is only going to be $1000 more than the M3CS

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...cs-specs-info/
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Point being that for what, $6k more, I can get an M5 or a nicely options 911. That is all. I did not mean that I would get the M5 at that price, although with ED it is certainly possible.
Base M5 .... plus some options it's easy 120K
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      11-30-2017, 02:04 PM   #53
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The Road and Track article states it is only going to be $1000 more than the M3CS

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...cs-specs-info/
I think that's just a guess.

But if that is true then that makes the value equation of the M3 CS even more questionable than the ~$97.5K price tag already does.
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      11-30-2017, 02:06 PM   #54
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This is m5 territory
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      11-30-2017, 02:06 PM   #55
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Base M5 .... plus some options it's easy 120K
Sigh. Okay man. I do not see how what you are saying is any different than what I am, namely, that for close to $97k I can possibly get an ED M5 (I did not say with options, and I tend to like my cars base) or a nicely optioned 911....

Are you just arguing with me now to argue? My OPINION is that for that amount of money, namely $98k including destination I could possibly get a base M5 for ED (which right now seems unlikely for the M3 CS) or a 911 with options without sweating the price difference too much.

I guess my point is that when we start getting closer to $100k, there are many more options for not that much money more. Relatively of course.

Basically, no M3, no matter how special, is worth $100k in my opinion. But again my opinion
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BMW is going after people with deep pockets, not true enthusiasts. No bueno
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      11-30-2017, 02:11 PM   #57
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If you look at it with all the options you have, it's about on par.

I've seen tons of F80s go for $100k+ when you add all the options like full leather, accessories, CCBs and all the CF parts and in some cases an individual color.

This car makes sense if you want all that from he factory already, assuming you can get one for MSRP.

You can look at it the other way and do all of that yourself for considerably less money. I guess it just depends on your thought process, really.
You're right I speced my 18 M4 to be at around 113 after taxes and warranty
That is ridiculous lol
Lol I know I went with the fashion grey ext color and nutmeg interior with all those little option boxes ticked but I ended not buying due to being broke
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I think that's just a guess.

But if that is true then that makes the value equation of the M3 CS even more questionable than the ~$97.5K price tag already does.
You can make a good guess by using UK price. US M3 CS price is another 12.7%. Using same ratio US M4 CS should be a tick over $100k.

UK
M3 CS - 86,380
M4 CS - 89,130

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M3 CS - 97,400
M4 CS - 100,500 (est)
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@Thescout13 Wasn't this your quote when the M3 CS was 1st announced "Take all of my money. Have it."?
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Point being that for what, $6k more, I can get an M5 or a nicely options 911. That is all. I did not mean that I would get the M5 at that price, although with ED it is certainly possible.
Or for less, a car like the 981 or 718 Cayman GTS...which is a lot more "car" for the money in my opinion.
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@Thescout13 Wasn't this your quote when the M3 CS was 1st announced "Take all of my money. Have it."?
HAHAHAHA. It was, when I convinced myself it would only be around $90k. Now I will gladly put my foot in my mouth.
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Or for less, a car like the 981 or 718 Cayman GTS...which is a lot more "car" for the money in my opinion.
Agreed.
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@Thescout13 Wasn't this your quote when the M3 CS was 1st announced "Take all of my money. Have it."?
HAHAHAHA. It was, when I convinced myself it would only be around $90k. Now I will gladly put my foot in my mouth.
I was wrong and under estimated the price back then at $85-$90k. If I was in the market for a 4 door sedan, would be the new F90. Instead my 4 door sedan is the X5, soon a X5M. Need a larger car to offset the convertible when space is needed.
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So you think there is this large group of people waiting for CS pricing, before they purchase unsold and used GTS’s?

All this is...is more overpriced cars that will sit on dealer lots. These will drop in price just like the unsold GTS models.
This.

Add CCB's and the dealer markup and you get a $115K glorified 3 series. All the best to those who gobble these up.

Confident pass for me.
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I was "first on a list" for months...the dealership wanted $10K over with no guarantee that the car would be mine if someone outbid me. I understand the concept that they're trying to make a profit and that their margins are small, but this kind of stuff is so disheartening to enthusiasts.
That's troubling. When will BMW dealers move away from transactional to relationship selling? For example we need them to make transactions simple, be there when you need them most and recognize the relationship & reward loyalty.
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