Rumor: F30/F32 M3 to Get Tri-Turbo V6 Engine - Page 2

Krozi · 04-19-2011, 01:25 PM

If they make a V6 for this car....then............

Erhan · 04-19-2011, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mako

Legendary M3? the current M3 is the only one to ever have a V8, they are just going back to the old M3 engine size but adding turbos.

times are changing, everyone needs to get used to it!
The M3 after this one will probably be part electric, what will you say to that?

Bye. even to next turbo one, bye...

SCBMW02 · 04-19-2011, 01:33 PM

How about a 4 cyl turbo in the next M3? The 1977 320i David Hobbs drove in IMSA was a 2.0L 4 cyl turbo making 650hp.

MMMorish · 04-19-2011, 01:33 PM

I couldn't care less what they decide to do with the next M3. This current one for me is a keeper. My next ride will most likely be an M5 or a Panamera.

Levi · 04-19-2011, 01:33 PM

With all these rumours I do not care whether V6 or I6. For me what is important is that the M3 get a special M worthy engine, and not just a tuned BMW AG engine. I also do not care about M3 Legend any more, let the F32M just be an M version of the 4 Series Coupé F32, and so be called M4. I'll take an M4 CSL.

Canexican · 04-19-2011, 01:38 PM

Not happening. It wouldn't surprise me that BMW would go to a V6, as it makes alot more sense as far as packaging goes, but 3 turbos? You don't need 3. Hell, you don't NEED 2. The amount of heat and cooling capacity required would negatively offset the smaller packaging of a V6. Not to mention, the increased weight and cost of the extra turbo and plumbing.

This is about as likely to happen as the M3 pick-up truck.

devo · 04-19-2011, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bimmer325

No V8 grunt, the legendary M3 will be in history....

Legendary V8? It's been around for one (street) model run. What IS legendary is their I6. Their turbos are becoming such as well.

The new M turbo will be excellent even without the 8.

JoosyJoos · 04-19-2011, 01:41 PM

Interesting... very interesting.

What would be the advantage of a 3 turbo design as opposed to 2? Throttle response? Efficiency? I'm just not sure it would outweigh the cons of having all that extra plumbing, weight, intercoolers etc.

The V6 makes sense to me though---That would allow them to mount the engine further back in the chassis along with all the peripherals like intercoolers, oil coolers etc--- thus making more room for them and increasing their size.

I can't afford a new M3 anyway... so what do I care lol

huyner328 · 04-19-2011, 01:43 PM

Maybe it'll be a motor like the Porsche 918 Spider.

pyrat · 04-19-2011, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoosyJoos

I can't afford a new M3 anyway... so what do I care lol

Best post.

04cbm3 · 04-19-2011, 01:46 PM

Excuse my ignorance, but what would be the advantages of going to a v6 over the inline 6. BMW has pretty much perfected the inline 6 so why switch. Couldn't they just make a tri turbo inline 6???

manicm · 04-19-2011, 01:47 PM

It would go against BMW's policy of sticking to 0.5l per cylinder.

BLACK MJB+ · 04-19-2011, 01:48 PM

Nothing like a V8 grunt!

OC3 · 04-19-2011, 01:48 PM

That seems plausible.

The S65 is essentially E60 M5/M6's V10 w/ V2 slashed off. With F10 M5 having V8 w/ TT, F30 M3's V6 would similarly have V2 slashed off.

CrazyJoe · 04-19-2011, 01:52 PM

should have a v8 Turbo hmmmmmmmmmmmm

duk · 04-19-2011, 01:52 PM

tri turbo? lol why would u even need that

piloto · 04-19-2011, 01:56 PM

I just don't see the need, as the 3rd turbo will add more cost, more plumbing, more packaging issues, more heat management issues for just a slight improvement in throttle response. They're better of with the I6 and twin turbos. The only reason I can think of a need for the V6 would be to improve the weight distribution, assuming the car sans engine is already nose heavy (relatively speaking). I also don't think they'd want to lose both their famous throttle response and smoothness in one shot. Losing the throttle response is bad enough, to lose the smoothness of the I6 or 90 deg V8 is even worse. Just my dois centavos.

schnell325 · 04-19-2011, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MMMorish

I couldn't care less what they decide to do with the next M3. This current one for me is a keeper. My next ride will most likely be an M5 or a Panamera.

Very well put.

OC3 · 04-19-2011, 01:58 PM

Weight distribution, better balance, compact packaging (more room in the engine bay), etc.

As for added complexity, BMW is better than most at complicated engine design & building.

mkoesel · 04-19-2011, 02:01 PM

I still call BS on the V6. I am sticking with the 3L "S55" I6.

E60orBust · 04-19-2011, 02:10 PM

N54 = single scroll, twin turbo
N55 = dual scroll, single turbo

Why not for next M3, 3.3L I6 with twin turbo, twin scroll? That should be good for 450HP easy right?

ArabianSensation · 04-19-2011, 02:15 PM

Yeah. Ok.

04-19-2011, 01:25 PM	#23
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04-19-2011, 01:33 PM	#26
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04-19-2011, 01:38 PM	#28
Canexican Closet N54 Fan Drives: Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 87 iTrader: (0)	Not happening. It wouldn't surprise me that BMW would go to a V6, as it makes alot more sense as far as packaging goes, but 3 turbos? You don't need 3. Hell, you don't NEED 2. The amount of heat and cooling capacity required would negatively offset the smaller packaging of a V6. Not to mention, the increased weight and cost of the extra turbo and plumbing. This is about as likely to happen as the M3 pick-up truck. __________________ '06 EVO IX MR 10.51@127mph *(1.40 60ft)* World's Quickest/Fastest Stock Turbo/Motor Evolution 400whp/397wtq. Stock Turbo. Stock Cams. E85 Powered. Tuned by JSDyno.com Sweet vids of my car kicking ass...

04-19-2011, 01:41 PM	#30
JoosyJoos Major Drives: 2008 335i Coupe Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Johns Creek, GA Posts: 1,271 iTrader: (1) Garage List 2008 BMW 335i [0.00]	Interesting... very interesting. What would be the advantage of a 3 turbo design as opposed to 2? Throttle response? Efficiency? I'm just not sure it would outweigh the cons of having all that extra plumbing, weight, intercoolers etc. The V6 makes sense to me though---That would allow them to mount the engine further back in the chassis along with all the peripherals like intercoolers, oil coolers etc--- thus making more room for them and increasing their size. I can't afford a new M3 anyway... so what do I care lol __________________ Active Autowerkes Tuned 335i 1995 M3 - Work in progress track toy

04-19-2011, 01:43 PM	#31
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04-19-2011, 01:33 PM	#25
SCBMW02 Private First Class Drives: 2010 X5d/ 2011 sDrive 35is Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Florence,South Carolina Posts: 152 iTrader: (0)	How about a 4 cyl turbo in the next M3? The 1977 320i David Hobbs drove in IMSA was a 2.0L 4 cyl turbo making 650hp.

04-19-2011, 01:33 PM	#27
Levi Colonel Drives: Alfa Romeo Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 2,529 iTrader: (0)	With all these rumours I do not care whether V6 or I6. For me what is important is that the M3 get a special M worthy engine, and not just a tuned BMW AG engine. I also do not care about M3 Legend any more, let the F32M just be an M version of the 4 Series Coupé F32, and so be called M4. I'll take an M4 CSL.

04-19-2011, 01:46 PM	#33
04cbm3 Private First Class Drives: E46 m3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: AL./ky Posts: 160 iTrader: (0)	Excuse my ignorance, but what would be the advantages of going to a v6 over the inline 6. BMW has pretty much perfected the inline 6 so why switch. Couldn't they just make a tri turbo inline 6???

04-19-2011, 01:47 PM	#34
manicm First Lieutenant Drives: X1 sDrive18i Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: SA Posts: 375 iTrader: (0)	It would go against BMW's policy of sticking to 0.5l per cylinder.

04-19-2011, 01:48 PM	#35
BLACK MJB+ HELL OF A LIFE! Drives: BMW 135i Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: MIAMI Posts: 321 iTrader: (5)	Nothing like a V8 grunt!

04-19-2011, 01:48 PM	#36
OC3 Havin' a blast! Drives: 2013 M3 E92 Jerez Blk DCT ZCP Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: SoCal Posts: 3,731 iTrader: (0)	That seems plausible. The S65 is essentially E60 M5/M6's V10 w/ V2 slashed off. With F10 M5 having V8 w/ TT, F30 M3's V6 would similarly have V2 slashed off. __________________ 2013 E92 M3 Jerez Black DCT ZCP 2011 E90 M3 Jerez Black DCT ZCP (Gone - traded in) 2008 E90 M3 Jerez Black 6MT (Gone - End of Lease)

04-19-2011, 01:52 PM	#37
CrazyJoe Banned Drives: E92 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Jersey/NY Posts: 109 iTrader: (0)	should have a v8 Turbo hmmmmmmmmmmmm

04-19-2011, 01:52 PM	#38
duk ///M Drives: 2011 AW/FR 6MT E92 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,700 iTrader: (0)	tri turbo? lol why would u even need that __________________ 2011 AW/FR 6MT E92 \| Powered by Premier \| Alekshop \| ESS \| Rok n Peace Clothing: www.roknpeace.com

04-19-2011, 01:56 PM	#39
piloto Captain Drives: 2011 E90 M3 - AW/FR Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 832 iTrader: (0)	I just don't see the need, as the 3rd turbo will add more cost, more plumbing, more packaging issues, more heat management issues for just a slight improvement in throttle response. They're better of with the I6 and twin turbos. The only reason I can think of a need for the V6 would be to improve the weight distribution, assuming the car sans engine is already nose heavy (relatively speaking). I also don't think they'd want to lose both their famous throttle response and smoothness in one shot. Losing the throttle response is bad enough, to lose the smoothness of the I6 or 90 deg V8 is even worse. Just my dois centavos.

04-19-2011, 01:58 PM	#41
OC3 Havin' a blast! Drives: 2013 M3 E92 Jerez Blk DCT ZCP Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: SoCal Posts: 3,731 iTrader: (0)	Weight distribution, better balance, compact packaging (more room in the engine bay), etc. As for added complexity, BMW is better than most at complicated engine design & building. __________________ 2013 E92 M3 Jerez Black DCT ZCP 2011 E90 M3 Jerez Black DCT ZCP (Gone - traded in) 2008 E90 M3 Jerez Black 6MT (Gone - End of Lease)

04-19-2011, 02:01 PM	#42
mkoesel Moderator Drives: IB/PS M-DCT E93 M3 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Canton, MI Posts: 11,724 iTrader: (1)	I still call BS on the V6. I am sticking with the 3L "S55" I6. __________________ 2008 Interlagos Blue E93 M3 - M-DCT 2011 Salsa Red Jetta TDI Sportwagen - DSG

04-19-2011, 02:10 PM	#43
E60orBust Captain Drives: "The Brothers //M-Sport" E90/2 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: MD Posts: 601 iTrader: (0)	N54 = single scroll, twin turbo N55 = dual scroll, single turbo Why not for next M3, 3.3L I6 with twin turbo, twin scroll? That should be good for 450HP easy right? __________________ Down for Maintenance

04-19-2011, 02:15 PM	#44
ArabianSensation Lieutenant Drives: M3 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 466 iTrader: (0)	Yeah. Ok. __________________ Cars: M3, Accord V6 Check out my car blog at www.clutchdropblog.com !

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