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      07-18-2012, 11:39 AM   #67
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Agreed on that point. Given that the wheel in question is 19", it probably is the optional one. The standard one will be 18" if the E46M and E9XM are any indication. Or do you think BMW will actually offer a 20" wheel on this car?
I think of the smaller wheel as the optional one for these cars since the upsized wheels seem to get the higher take rate. So I was thinking 18s. However, it occurs to me that with brake size apparently increasing, 18s may no longer fit. So perhaps there will only be 19s. I don't expect 20s but I suppose it is possible. There are M-Performance 20s for the F30 after all.

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Funny but likely true. Or maybe the GC will bring a new wheel, though that does not appear to be the case with the M6.
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      07-18-2012, 11:42 AM   #68
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Why must BMW tease... I want to know what it looks like, and I want to know now!
This isn't a tease, it's standard operating procedure. Early test mules are always camouflaged from every manufacturer and typically do not sport the final production parts and design.
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      07-18-2012, 11:44 AM   #69
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How is it possible that this thing won't be available for another 2.5-3 years???
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      07-18-2012, 12:07 PM   #70
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How is it possible that this thing won't be available for another 2.5-3 years???
As SamS points out:

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The very first F30 mule was publicly spotted/photographed in Nov '09 IIRC. And it went on sale in the US in Feb '12. So based on that ~27 month turnaround, we could see the F82 in very late 2014. Maybe even early '15.
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      07-18-2012, 12:24 PM   #71
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Understood- I just can't believe the process is dragged out that long. Painful!!!
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      07-18-2012, 12:38 PM   #72
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Doesn't seem like it will be dramatically different in looks compared to the E92 (at least not as much as the change from E36 - E46, E46 - E92). Also looks oddly like a Mustang from some angles, but hell you can't tell much from a fully camo'd car. Agree with swamp and others that the exhaust looks like shit if they keep the giant can (along with the other piping hiding above it.)
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      07-18-2012, 12:55 PM   #73
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As SamS points out:
I wouldn't suggest using past figures to calculate development the E9X cars were built before BMW's massive environmental testing facility which means these cars are seeing less street time during development.

Also, M is working with AG closer to the start of development rather the completion point so M cars can come to market sooner, like AMG. The F80 is rumored to nearly be complete and many of those parts just needed minor tweaks to work with the F82 (Styling and sheet metal aside).
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      07-18-2012, 01:03 PM   #74
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I wouldn't suggest using past figures to calculate development the E9X cars were built before BMW's massive environmental testing facility which means these cars are seeing less street time during development.

Also, M is working with AG closer to the start of development rather the completion point so M cars can come to market sooner, like AMG. The F80 is rumored to nearly be complete and many of those parts just needed minor tweaks to work with the F82 (Styling and sheet metal aside).
All true, but as I pointed out earlier, with no F32 until mid to late 2013, the ///M version needs a bit of time after that intro to debut. So 2014 must still be considered the most legitimate timeframe. Same situation occurred with the F10 M5 and F12/13 M6.
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So this is the new F82 3.0T ... oh sorry i meant M4
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      07-18-2012, 01:38 PM   #76
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needs a power dome.

and i'm going to say this every chance i get: CAN WE PLEASE STOP CALLING IT A 4 SERIES

at least for now. does anyone here actually like that name? M4?
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      07-18-2012, 01:58 PM   #77
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Form over Function ?

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PLEASE STOP CALLING IT A 4 SERIES
Why if that is its name ?

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Does anyone here actually like that name? M4,
Yes. Sounds better.

M3 < M4

Bigger = Better
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      07-18-2012, 02:04 PM   #78
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      07-18-2012, 02:29 PM   #79
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at least for now. does anyone here actually like that name? M4?
Well, 4 is pronounced "fear" in German, so there is that. I would have never bought an E92 always preferring the E90 and from the looks of it, the F80 will look better than the F82 also.
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      07-18-2012, 02:32 PM   #80
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No disrespect to the n54 (it's a modern marvel), but I'm going to laugh if the n55 is optimized to outperform the n54 in vehicles like the 1er m coupe etc. Maybe all the die hard n54 lovers that constantly talk smack about the n55 will realize why BMW made the switch and leave it alone.
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      07-18-2012, 02:33 PM   #81
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Can't wait to welcome her in my stable
That just sounds.... dirty
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      07-18-2012, 03:26 PM   #82
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      07-18-2012, 04:02 PM   #83
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Why do they camouflage the car like that?
I give in.... Why do they camouflage the car like that?
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So this was the car under the tarp.

The rims match.

I wish I could've seen it without the camo.
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Why must BMW tease... I want to know what it looks like, and I want to know now!
This isn't a tease, it's standard operating procedure. Early test mules are always camouflaged from every manufacturer and typically do not sport the final production parts and design.
Well obviously.... Doesn't mean I still don't want to see it now!
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Hate the idea of a "M4"
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Looks like a Ford Mustang.
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and i'm going to say this every chance i get: CAN WE PLEASE STOP CALLING IT A 4 SERIES

at least for now. does anyone here actually like that name? M4?
I read in an English motoring mag that BMW were going to call the coupé and the vert the '4 series' and the 3 series will carry on being the 4 door saloon and 5 door estate.

This was something to do with Audi having an A4 for the 4/5 doors and an A5 for the 2 door versions.

So if this is true you will be driving a 4 series if you want another 2 door BMW whether you like it or not!
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