More 2014 BMW M3 F80 Videos: 3 Minutes Blasting On and Around Nurburgring - Page 2

M3 Esq. · 09-12-2012, 06:29 PM

I agree it looks planted through the corners but I am not crazy about that exhaust note.

DiavelM3 · 09-12-2012, 06:42 PM

These videos are great but the sound seems to change in each video. Perhaps its the recorder?
The last video that was posted in this forum, had a nice exhaust note with a "thump" sound in between gear changes. This one seems to have more of a "fart" sound

VCMpower · 09-12-2012, 06:59 PM

A motor not r&d, built from scratch or completely unique to M3(4) by M division! Fail

StealYourFace · 09-12-2012, 07:07 PM

I love it!

It seems that that are playing around with different exhausts based on several vids that have been posted. Just an obvious thing being tinkered with among the hundreds of things that aren't so apparent.

Keep them coming, very cool to see.

bimmerjph · 09-12-2012, 09:51 PM

My observations:

In the last video the exhaust sounded like a swarm of honey bees. Now it sounds like a swarm of bumble bees, so I guess that is improvement.

I am fairly confident body roll wont be a complaint, or really handling in general.

Is it just me or did it sound like it is broken at the end?

Krazy3281 · 09-12-2012, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VCMpower

A motor not r&d, built from scratch or completely unique to M3(4) by M division! Fail

So every M3 except the E9X m3 is a complete fail?

If you didn't know the E9X m3 was the only M3 to have a "unique M division R&D" engine. Which really was really a variant of the only "true M" engine the S85(v10 in last M5. All other M3's had a modified/upgraded/variant of a standard BMW engine:

E46 M3: S54 engine based on M54 engine in 330's
E36 M3: S50 engine based on M50 engine found in 325's
E30 M3: S14 engine based on M10 and M88 engines found in lots of older Bmw's

Regardless, it's worked very well in the past, it will work again.

Kuwen · 09-12-2012, 10:15 PM

There definitely seemed like there was some granny shifting going on during the track clips however at ~0:27 the car had a really nice baritone sound to it during the drive by and at ~2:42 it sounded very good - first time I've heard the F80 makes noises like that (ignoring whatever was squealing!).

M3_WC · 09-12-2012, 10:41 PM

Well it definitely does not sound like a high revving engine. Farts a lot.

clar · 09-13-2012, 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krazy3281

So every M3 except the E9X m3 is a complete fail?

If you didn't know the E9X m3 was the only M3 to have a "unique M division R&D" engine. Which really was really a variant of the only "true M" engine the S85(v10 in last M5. All other M3's had a modified/upgraded/variant of a standard BMW engine:

E46 M3: S54 engine based on M54 engine in 330's
E36 M3: S50 engine based on M50 engine found in 325's
E30 M3: S14 engine based on M10 and M88 engines found in lots of older Bmw's

Regardless, it's worked very well in the past, it will work again.

The S54 was never based on the M54. The S54 was improved from the S52, which was the engine used by the E36 M3 in Europe. The S52/S54 engine were bespoke M engines with no relation to the M series engines used on series cars from what i know.

DaveDee · 09-13-2012, 12:09 AM

sounds like a blowfly after it's been sprayed

Transfer · 09-13-2012, 12:21 AM

The sounds captured in this vid are better than before. Besides that, it looks VERY quick.
1:32 sounds fantastic and seems like redline. I don't recall any of the other vids with RPMs that high. The boost BPV/evac sounds nice too.

speedfan · 09-13-2012, 01:06 AM

guys, dont worry about the noise.
BMW will pipe in the engine noise through the stereo! HA!

RazBimmer · 09-13-2012, 03:03 AM

Superb.. looks very promising!

alexus87 · 09-13-2012, 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clar

The S54 was never based on the M54. The S54 was improved from the S52, which was the engine used by the E36 M3 in Europe. The S52/S54 engine were bespoke M engines with no relation to the M series engines used on series cars from what i know.

While the S54 was indeed an updated version of the S52 and was not based on the M54, the S52 you guys had in the US and the European S50 were both based on the M50 and were not bespoke engines. As such the S54 is just an updated version of an engine that was itself a performance version of a regular AG one.

Peahi · 09-13-2012, 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedfan

guys, dont worry about the noise.
BMW will pipe in the engine noise through the stereo! HA!

Yes! Combine the sound of a nice 335is and the piped in sound over the speakers from the m5 and we have perfection! Lol!

Guys, the sounds we hear at the end appears to be our famous m3 cowbell/pinging sound. Don't you know it's the calling card sound, along with the deep v8 sound!

Uli_HH · 09-13-2012, 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexus87

While the S54 was indeed an updated version of the S52 and was not based on the M54, the S52 you guys had in the US and the European S50 were both based on the M50 and were not bespoke engines. As such the S54 is just an updated version of an engine that was itself a performance version of a regular AG one.

Sorry! But NO ... you must define the word "based on" correctly !!!

All M3 engine until now which were based on AG engines only share the basic engine block layout with their AG counterparts ... really all other parts were bespoken part only developed for the S50s and the S54 (the special US M engines are an other story!).

BUT if BMW today speaks in the case of the F8x about an "heavily" modified N55 as basis and you also know that only cost reduction were the reason to choose this engine alternative ... it seem clear that "this engine" must be the cheapest possible way to reach the needed ~450hp ... so "heavily modified" meens in my opinion:
- stronger engine block/crankcase by puting struts on the outside
- better/greater Turbos-system by using the TriTurbo of the N57S
- adding the newest VANOS availiable
- intelligent software
... plus some minor parts ... I think that would be all and I don´t define this as "heavily modified", its only an AG N55 with some better (newer) parts. If the M-GmbH would modify the N55 more heavily the cost would rise sharply and thats against all whats the BMW AG sought to achieve the BMW AG with its engine decision.

Greets Uli_HH

clar · 09-13-2012, 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexus87

While the S54 was indeed an updated version of the S52 and was not based on the M54, the S52 you guys had in the US and the European S50 were both based on the M50 and were not bespoke engines. As such the S54 is just an updated version of an engine that was itself a performance version of a regular AG one.

Yeah, if u consider sharing the same engine block as "based on." I am assuming the S50 uses the same engine block as the M50 u mentioned. S engines have very aggressive cylinder head design, which enables them to rev way higher than series engines. That required a lot of higher strength internals to cope with that. To me, the "based on" portion of the equation is rather meaningless considering how different they really are everywhere else.

THE TECH · 09-13-2012, 08:08 AM

Can't believe that would be the final exhaust note. Sounds too loud.

Needsdecaf · 09-13-2012, 08:08 AM

Loving it. I love the HUGE boost dump at 1:31.

Sounds like the Family Truckster when it's pulling back into the garage, though!

Poppin Fresh · 09-13-2012, 09:52 AM

Looks like it will handle well and will be a looker but it will need an S65 engine swap ASAP!

Morning Hawk · 09-13-2012, 10:58 AM

At the end of the video, as it's pulling into the garage, did anyone else notice that tin-can loose bolt sound coming from the car?

Didn't sound normal, like something was unhinged...

Ka razy · 09-13-2012, 12:21 PM

Thanks Jason. Sure looks planted!

09-12-2012, 06:29 PM	#23
M3 Esq. Mind of an effing scientist. Drives: Safely Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CT Posts: 1,094 iTrader: (2) Garage List 2011 328i XDrive [0.50] 2013 BMW M3 [0.50]	I agree it looks planted through the corners but I am not crazy about that exhaust note. __________________ 2013 M3 Coupe Jerezschwarz/Speed Cloth/Competition/DCT/BMW PE/CF Bits/Dinan Goodies/Volk TE37SL 2011 328i XDrive Alpineweiss/Premium/Convenience/Sport

09-12-2012, 06:42 PM	#24
DiavelM3 4 Star General -Twilight Zone Drives: '11 E92 M3 ZCP Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: 5280 Posts: 1,013 iTrader: (1)	These videos are great but the sound seems to change in each video. Perhaps its the recorder? The last video that was posted in this forum, had a nice exhaust note with a "thump" sound in between gear changes. This one seems to have more of a "fart" sound __________________ '12 Ducati Diavel '06 E46 M3 (sold) \| '97 325is - Dinan (sold) '02 Z3 3.0 coupe (sold) Past - '84 Ferrari 308 GTSI \| '88 Ferrari 328 GTS \| '05 Dodge Viper Copperhead Edition #180/300 \| Audi S4

09-12-2012, 06:59 PM	#25
VCMpower Captain Drives: 2010 Dakar Edition M3-all ops Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Victoria B.C. Posts: 722 iTrader: (0)	A motor not r&d, built from scratch or completely unique to M3(4) by M division! Fail __________________ Active Autowerke GEN 2 Level 3 591whp 410tq(@7500rpm) Dyno Dynamics 8% correction

09-12-2012, 07:07 PM	#26
StealYourFace Lieutenant Drives: 2006 330i sport Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Shakedown Street, Buffalo NY Posts: 497 iTrader: (1)	I love it! It seems that that are playing around with different exhausts based on several vids that have been posted. Just an obvious thing being tinkered with among the hundreds of things that aren't so apparent. Keep them coming, very cool to see. __________________ 330i ~ BMW Perf. Susp. ~ M3 Front Control Arms ~ BMW Perf Exhaust ~ 3.38 lsd ~ 230s ~ Pilot Super Sports

09-13-2012, 12:21 AM	#33
Transfer Captain Drives: E90 M3, X1 xDrive28i Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 865 iTrader: (0)	The sounds captured in this vid are better than before. Besides that, it looks VERY quick. 1:32 sounds fantastic and seems like redline. I don't recall any of the other vids with RPMs that high. The boost BPV/evac sounds nice too. Last edited by Transfer; 09-13-2012 at 12:28 AM.

09-12-2012, 09:51 PM	#27
bimmerjph Major Drives: 2002 BMW 325i Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,399 iTrader: (0)	My observations: In the last video the exhaust sounded like a swarm of honey bees. Now it sounds like a swarm of bumble bees, so I guess that is improvement. I am fairly confident body roll wont be a complaint, or really handling in general. Is it just me or did it sound like it is broken at the end?

09-12-2012, 10:15 PM	#29
Kuwen New Member Drives: . Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 12 iTrader: (0)	There definitely seemed like there was some granny shifting going on during the track clips however at ~0:27 the car had a really nice baritone sound to it during the drive by and at ~2:42 it sounded very good - first time I've heard the F80 makes noises like that (ignoring whatever was squealing!).

09-12-2012, 10:41 PM	#30
M3_WC Lieutenant Colonel Drives: M3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: CA Posts: 1,840 iTrader: (0)	Well it definitely does not sound like a high revving engine. Farts a lot.

09-13-2012, 12:09 AM	#32
DaveDee Drives: E92 M3 Edition M-DCT Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gold Coast Australia Posts: 308 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 BMW M3 Edition [5.00]	sounds like a blowfly after it's been sprayed

09-13-2012, 01:06 AM	#34
speedfan Major Drives: BMW Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: HCM City Posts: 1,096 iTrader: (2)	guys, dont worry about the noise. BMW will pipe in the engine noise through the stereo! HA! __________________ My e90 Frozen Grey. Dry CF Roof. Vorsteiner Double Sided CF Boot Lid. OSS. BMW Performance Aero Kit. BMW Performance CF Diffuser Cover. BMW Performance CF Trim. Robson Design Steering Wheel. Advan RS. Michelin PSS. H&R Touring Cup Kit. BMW Performance Brakes. Eisenmann Race Rear Muffler. ESS Directflash

09-13-2012, 03:03 AM	#35
RazBimmer Enlisted Member Drives: 335i, 650i Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: UAE Posts: 49 iTrader: (0)	Superb.. looks very promising!

09-13-2012, 08:08 AM	#40
THE TECH Lieutenant General Drives: BPMsport 2012 E92 M3 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Kansas Posts: 12,067 iTrader: (39)	Can't believe that would be the final exhaust note. Sounds too loud. __________________ Check us out on Facebook at BPMsportlabs

09-13-2012, 08:08 AM	#41
Needsdecaf Everything's Bigger in Texas! Drives: 2011 535i Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: The Woodlands, TX Posts: 937 iTrader: (0)	Loving it. I love the HUGE boost dump at 1:31. Sounds like the Family Truckster when it's pulling back into the garage, though!

09-13-2012, 09:52 AM	#42
Poppin Fresh Colonel Drives: With a sunroof and front plate Join Date: May 2009 Location: Bergen County NJ Posts: 2,057 iTrader: (0)	Looks like it will handle well and will be a looker but it will need an S65 engine swap ASAP! __________________

09-13-2012, 10:58 AM	#43
Morning Hawk Private Drives: Subaru R2 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Yokohama/Yokosuka, Japan Posts: 98 iTrader: (0)	At the end of the video, as it's pulling into the garage, did anyone else notice that tin-can loose bolt sound coming from the car? Didn't sound normal, like something was unhinged...

09-13-2012, 12:21 PM	#44
Ka razy Second Lieutenant Drives: 2011 BMW 335I xDrive Coupe 6MT Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Heaven on Earth... Coeur d' Alene, Idaho Posts: 223 iTrader: (0)	Thanks Jason. Sure looks planted! __________________ 2011 BMW 335I xDrive Coupe M pagkage, 6MT 2007 BMW R1200GS Adventure Retired- 04 BMW Z4, 01 K1200RS, 00 R1150GS Four wheels move the body. Two wheels move the Soul!

Thread Tools	Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Email this Page	Search this Thread: Advanced Search