Car and Driver reports BMW M4 coupe name confirmed - Page 6

bucket328 · 12-10-2012, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JasonCSU

Those of you thinking the name is so important and are going to rebadge your cars are what give the term "badge snob" its meaning. Yes, there is heritage, but really only the enthusiasts will know about that. The general public could probably care less about the heritage, or on which specific model of BMW you drive that you desperately want to display with a badge.

Yeah you just said it though, I am an enthusiast and the heritage and history behind that name is important to me. It's personal opinion.

And again your right, the general public wont care, which is sad that BMW is more interested in marketing and its sales numbers then still keeping in touch with its roots and those die hard fans who follow them no matter what.

Either way I'm sure it will be a cracking car, just a shame about the name.

P-Town550i · 12-10-2012, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JC919

Would be my first mod if I were to buy one.

That makes no sense to me. That would be like re-badging an M6 to an M5.

JC919 · 12-10-2012, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by P-Town550i

That makes no sense to me. That would be like re-badging an M6 to an M5.

Actually no, it would not.

P-Town550i · 12-10-2012, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JC919

Actually no, it would not.

In accordance with BMW's new model layout, I believe it would. 3=sedan. 4=coupe. 5=sedan. 6=coupe.

Pretty clear to me.

JC919 · 12-10-2012, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by P-Town550i

In accordance with BMW's new model layout, I believe it would. 3=sedan. 4=coupe. 5=sedan. 6=coupe.

Pretty clear to me.

It was crazy when they renamed the coupe version of the M5 the 'M6' after it had already been around for thirty years.

I understand it from a branding standpoint, but I do not have to agree with it. Regardless, I am saying what I would do to my personal car and it would not require the consent of the forum.

P-Town550i · 12-10-2012, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JC919

It was crazy when they renamed the coupe version of the M5 the 'M6' after it had already been around for thirty years.

I understand it from a branding standpoint, but I do not have to agree with it. Regardless, I am saying what I would do to my personal car and it would not require the consent of the forum.

I respect that. To each their own. Just saying I don't agree.

Enjoy your BMW.

P-Town550i · 12-10-2012, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jpmaze23

You couldn't be any more wrong sir. People appreciate a tradition, and there is a legacy behind the M3. I mean adding all these other numbers is overkill. I my self will debadge it for the reason of tradition. I mean if you utter the word M3 people are like ahh yes the M3, and when you say M4 people will say WTF! is that???

That is your opinion. I know all to well the M3 legacy, having just got out of a 2011 E92 M3, and having owned an e36 M3 as well. I don't give a crap if other people are too naive to not know about the new M4. It simply means that they are either posers or noobs that don't know BMWs.

How is adding numbers overkill? Go ahead and debadge all you want...I wont loose a minutes sleep over it. I just simply think that is retarded to re-badge any model car to a model that it is not....at least according to the MANUFACTURER of the car.

Doc K · 12-10-2012, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Cuz5150

Ohh no's the end is near..........

j/k
Have no problem with the new name M4.
However, it keeps reminding me of my Benelli M4 tactical

I have one of those!

Ka razy · 12-11-2012, 01:19 AM

Where I live we all own real M4's

Levi · 12-11-2012, 08:22 AM

All those that know the M3 will know what the M4 is. All those that won't know what the M4 is, neither will know what an M3 is or was. For them it will just be a "BMW". Most funny thing is that in the mind of many "M4" already exists.

"What car was that? Z4, M3? M4???" Wether you talk to girls or even guys. They often confuse M3 and Z4 and call them M4.

LOL

DiavelM3 · 12-11-2012, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by JC919

Actually no, it would not.

Actually, yes, it would be. It's placing a different badge on a car and saying it's something that it's not. Why is that so hard for you to understand. It's really simple.

I guess simple things are complicated for some

JC919 · 12-11-2012, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DiavelM3

Actually, yes, it would be. It's placing a different badge on a car and saying it's something that it's not. Why is that so hard for you to understand. It's really simple.

I guess simple things are complicated for some

Why do y'all have to take things so fucking seriously?

rmani · 12-11-2012, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by e92door3

FOR ME they should have given the ''3'' to the coupe because in tradition there has always been a 2 door m3 and the original m3 was a coupe only. just my opinion

agreed

BMWJ · 12-11-2012, 05:48 PM

some people like labels

M3 Adjuster · 12-12-2012, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by TK-421

Doesn't matter anyway since the M brand that came out with the E30 M3 is dead.

Welcome to 1994 ?

Gugs · 12-12-2012, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by e92door3

FOR ME they should have given the ''3'' to the coupe because in tradition there has always been a 2 door m3 and the original m3 was a coupe only. just my opinion

Agreed

rave426 · 12-12-2012, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by OverDriven

Rebadging the M4 to M3 after you buy one makes no sense. If you really care about the name that much then you're a BMW fan for the wrong reason. Personally, I'm a fan because of the cars, not the name.

I somewhat disagree. The M3 was the car that made MANY of today's BMW fans, BMW fans. It’s an historic centerpiece in the history of one of the greatest car companies in the world, even more so than the "M1" badge.

In our present times of questioning BMW's prime focus in performance automobile design, I think it is a welcomed move to attempt a personal, physiological preservation of the roots of the company’s Motorsport division.

If anything, it should be celebrated that BMW fans want to keep the name reference. It keeps the sauce authentic, whereas most people will go and buy and "M4" with no idea or care of what the car means to automotive history and the continuous progression of BMW as a company.

Voltigeur · 12-13-2012, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by bucket328

Yeah you just said it though, I am an enthusiast and the heritage and history behind that name is important to me. It's personal opinion.
And again your right, the general public wont care, ...
Either way I'm sure it will be a cracking car, just a shame about the name.

Right. It's not about being a "badge snob". I enjoy reading history. I have books about BMW etc - where the M3 (2-door) is an iconic car, this name change marks a break in that line of heritage.

And it's plain cynical: bean counters & marketing types > heritage

Voltigeur · 12-13-2012, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JasonCSU

Well, there was a 912 previously which was a 4 cylinder version of the 911. I wonder what people thought of that back in the day.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_912

Yes, funny how there's no 912 anymore. So the more recent adds down in the range from the iconic 911 that are are named (ie Boxter, Cayman) - and the 911 goes on & on unsullied as the 911 (they would never, say, make the mistake now of making a '922').

Flip this on its head and maybe over time the punters will think of the M3 as a lower-rent M4

<ugh>

bucket328 · 02-07-2013, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Voltigeur

Right. It's not about being a "badge snob". I enjoy reading history. I have books about BMW etc - where the M3 (2-door) is an iconic car, this name change marks a break in that line of heritage.

And it's plain cynical: bean counters & marketing types > heritage

Thank you!!!! Finally someone gets it!

fuddman · 02-07-2013, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Voltigeur

And it's plain cynical: bean counters & marketing types > heritage

You left off part of the equation:

bean counters + marketing types + profit > heritage

BMW Dedicated · 03-13-2013, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by OverDriven

Rebadging the M4 to M3 after you buy one makes no sense. If you really care about the name that much then you're a BMW fan for the wrong reason. Personally, I'm a fan because of the cars, not the name.

Agreed. Genuinely, if someone is going to badge their F platform Sedan as an M3, there is some serious Childishness in whomever being will do so.

I have owned M3's since I ordered my 1st in 2001, which was Laguna Seca Blue & happily came de-limited with all German OEM Equipment to the U.S.
No one here is smarter than BMW to feel they are more wise to go messing with the car name in any fashion. May as well even have the open mindedness to badge it as an M6 or 1M as well, or since it is a Sedan, M5 or M6 Gran Coupé.
Complete nonsense.

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Levi Colonel Drives: Alfa Romeo Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 2,522 iTrader: (0)	All those that know the M3 will know what the M4 is. All those that won't know what the M4 is, neither will know what an M3 is or was. For them it will just be a "BMW". Most funny thing is that in the mind of many "M4" already exists. "What car was that? Z4, M3? M4???" Wether you talk to girls or even guys. They often confuse M3 and Z4 and call them M4. LOL

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