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      01-25-2013, 11:03 AM   #287
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do you guys think the M4 will come with optional alcantara roofliner (like the M5/M6) and optional full leather (entire dash and doors covered in leather just like the M5/M6 again) ?
would be smart to give them M4 an extended leather package option.
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couldnt have said it better myself. that is exactly the case here which alot of people dont understand. the bigger the car the higher the number, plain and simple.
I don't think anyone is going to fully understand until the final model is released.

I don't care what they name it so I'm not going to argue that but I still don't see how and why people think the 4-Series will be anything different - it's not going to be a baby 6-Series where's it's going to blow people's minds in this class of cars. From the spy pictures, it looks like going mimic the F30 3-Series like the E92 did to the E90 and I don't think any one really thought they were really different. You could sit in an E90 and then in a E92 and I doubt you would say they feel different. The drive, while not 100% the same, feels very similar.

I guess it comes down to how you really view the E92 and E90. If you thought they were truly different cars, well you're going to think the 4-Series is a brand new car. If you're like me who thought the E92/E90 were pretty much the same with the only difference being the number of doors.

No one knows for sure with the limited info out there but I just don't see anything that says it's going to be heads and shoulders above the 3-Series.
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I don't think anyone is going to fully understand until the final model is released.

I don't care what they name it so I'm not going to argue that but I still don't see how and why people think the 4-Series will be anything different - it's not going to be a baby 6-Series where's it's going to blow people's minds in this class of cars. From the spy pictures, it looks like going mimic the F30 3-Series like the E92 did to the E90 and I don't think any one really thought they were really different. You could sit in an E90 and then in a E92 and I doubt you would say they feel different. The drive, while not 100% the same, feels very similar.

I guess it comes down to how you really view the E92 and E90. If you thought they were truly different cars, well you're going to think the 4-Series is a brand new car. If you're like me who thought the E92/E90 were pretty much the same with the only difference being the number of doors.

No one knows for sure with the limited info out there but I just don't see anything that says it's going to be heads and shoulders above the 3-Series.
you're right. ive driven a E90 and i have a E92 and they do drive basically the same, sitting inside feels the same also. The F30 and the new 4 series have very similar interiors except for the doors. the exterior is basically the same, headlight shape differs alittle but very similar, hood design the same, body line same thing, rear design except for the tail lights. all it is is a bigger version of the F30 but instead of naming it the 3 series coupe its now the 4 series coupe. i dont care if they called it the 3 and a half series its a sexy looking car no matter what. most people remove the name from the back anyway so who cares.
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you're right. ive driven a E90 and i have a E92 and they do drive basically the same, sitting inside feels the same also. The F30 and the new 4 series have very similar interiors except for the doors. the exterior is basically the same, headlight shape differs alittle but very similar, hood design the same, body line same thing, rear design except for the tail lights. all it is is a bigger version of the F30 but instead of naming it the 3 series coupe its now the 4 series coupe. i dont care if they called it the 3 and a half series its a sexy looking car no matter what. most people remove the name from the back anyway so who cares.
I think the concept really threw people off. They saw that interior and thought it was going to be this new uber-luxury model. I'm not saying BMW wouldn't or couldn't offer such an option (BMW Individual) but the basis of the car should be the same.
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M3 Lime Rock edition is over $80k.
Sure, but The Lime Rock Edition is just shorthand for an M3 with all (or just about all) options, Individual Fire Orange paint, and Individual interior touches. So it cannot predict the base price of the next car. It is essentially an anomaly.

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I think the BMW will still have '14 M3 and I don't think that the M4 will cost less then the new M3. I hope not (since I like the look of the new M4) but will see.
I expect that M division will distinguish the M3 and M4 prices in a similar way that we've heard they will distinguish the 3 and 4 prices. That is to say that there will be a modest upcharge for the latter model. I would figure about $5k more for an M4 vs an M3, perhaps as much as 7k or so but no more than that.

I agree that this could push the M4 base price a bit over 70k. But it won't be by much if so.
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      01-25-2013, 12:20 PM   #293
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I think the concept really threw people off. They saw that interior and thought it was going to be this new uber-luxury model. I'm not saying BMW wouldn't or couldn't offer such an option (BMW Individual) but the basis of the car should be the same.
thats because the concept is meant to be a flashier more futuristic looking car for show with weird bumpers, those elegant mirrors, the weird door handle, the big flashy 20 inch wheels with pirelli tires not even the standard Michelin. the interior was more hand crafted for luxury with the baseball stitching ugliness they added to the doors and seats and those ugly cup holders. all for show because the standard 4 series will just look duller so this is why we look forward to the M4 to look for a nicer style.
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thats because the concept is meant to be a flashier more futuristic looking car for show with weird bumpers, those elegant mirrors, the weird door handle, the big flashy 20 inch wheels with pirelli tires not even the standard Michelin. the interior was more hand crafted for luxury with the baseball stitching ugliness they added to the doors and seats and those ugly cup holders. all for show because the standard 4 series will just look duller so this is why we look forward to the M4 to look for a nicer style.
Agreed. I just don't think some people understand that which is why there's so much debate/discussion as to what the 4-Series is/will be.
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You really did an amazing job on the photoshop!

However, where did you get those wheels from? I don't recognize them, own design? Gotta love those as well!
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Agreed. I just don't think some people understand that which is why there's so much debate/discussion as to what the 4-Series is/will be.
you really think they would put this bland looking thing on the showroom floor for first impression? doesnt look so nice when it comes down to the real design.


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You really did an amazing job on the photoshop!

However, where did you get those wheels from? I don't recognize them, own design? Gotta love those as well!
Thank you. M6 Gran Coupe wheels.
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      01-25-2013, 01:04 PM   #298
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While I'm really excited how this M4 is turning out, I can't help but be even more excited about the M4 GC. I'm not particularly a fan of the M6 GC because I think the trunk is way too short and flat, but if they pull it off on the M4 GC, I think we might have a winner.

Melbourne Red, with Cinnamon interior (if not, boring black will do) with CF roof M4 GC. Done deal.

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do you guys think the M4 will come with optional alcantara roofliner (like the M5/M6) and optional full leather (entire dash and doors covered in leather just like the M5/M6 again) ?
We can always hope, but I think that's doubtful. The really good news is that the M3 and M4 will finally have a HUD. That's the biggest thing that was missing IMHO.
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you really think they would put this bland looking thing on the showroom floor for first impression? doesnt look so nice when it comes down to the real design.
That picture when first leaked is the basis to my argument that the 4-Series isn't going to be anything special, a different body but will simply be the coupe version of the 3-Series.

When you look at that, do you get the same feeling when you look at the A5? Sure you can argue well the A5 is just an A4 but Audi has done a good job with aesthetics in making the A5 feel like it's a much higher model. BMW has done no such thing with the production model.
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That picture when first leaked is the basis to my argument that the 4-Series isn't going to be anything special, a different body but will simply be the coupe version of the 3-Series.

When you look at that, do you get the same feeling when you look at the A5? Sure you can argue well the A5 is just an A4 but Audi has done a good job with aesthetics in making the A5 feel like it's a much higher model. BMW has done no such thing with the production model.
guess we will have to wait and see when its official.
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When the ///M4 really will looks like the pics.(page 1 )..one word...WOW...
Except the steering wheel...looks to retro
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When the ///M4 really will looks like the pics.(page 1 )..one word...WOW...
Except the steering wheel...looks to retro
it will have that steering wheel. its in one of the spy pics of the interior. same wheel as the Msport f30.
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The really good news is that the M3 and M4 will finally have a HUD. That's the biggest thing that was missing IMHO.
I hope that is optional. The tech is fun, but for me it was distracting. Maybe I was not used to it. But it also adds alot of weight, and BMW did their best to make the car lighter. Contradictory.
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When the ///M4 really will looks like the pics.(page 1 )..one word...WOW...
Except the steering wheel...looks to retro
You can just get the M Performance one.
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it will have that steering wheel. its in one of the spy pics of the interior. same wheel as the Msport f30.
I just look at pic.# 1.... and i dowload it...zoom in...and looked the CF roof...it has a very nice and sporty profile design in the middle, and for that roof only...i want forget about the retro steering wheel
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