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      12-11-2013, 08:37 PM   #67
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I'll wait for the competition package. You know it'll be better. First year lci is always the sweet spot
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      12-11-2013, 08:38 PM   #68
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I think those that are down on the official hp numbers are missing the point. This car is about the sum of the parts. We all know that the underrate their engines anyway, The fact is this car has better fuel economy, more torque, lighter weight, optimized body/weight distribution thanks to better materials and finally, much better multi-piston brakes.

With that said, gone are the naturally aspirated engines, as well as hydraulic assisted steering. We will just have to wait until the in person drive reviews come in to see if the new car is equal to or better than the previous generation.
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      12-11-2013, 08:39 PM   #69
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I'm definitely going to consider a Porsche or Audi for my next car. That power output seems pretty weak, and I just hate how ugly the designers have made the front end of these things. The hood line and headlights are just awful... It's sad to see the company's better days behind it when Audi and Mercedes are pumping out more interesting cars to compete with
So in summary you're saying the new f80/82 m3/m4 needs more hp and better designers.. Bit simplistic in your judgement no? Power to weight ratio and individual preference of aesthetics. 2nd part can't argue with but seriously not just about absolute hp, need to look at the bigger picture.
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      12-11-2013, 08:39 PM   #70
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Any word on Alcantara interior?
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      12-11-2013, 08:40 PM   #71
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oh man! so June??
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      12-11-2013, 08:41 PM   #72
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Wow, they did all this and left the rear lamp with incandescent bulb.
If true I will be stunned. Maybe the LED lighting package changes this but dam it should be standard. It's on other BMW cars and my Commuter 13 Nissan sentra! Come on BMW!
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      12-11-2013, 08:43 PM   #73
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That latest video is me all over, moving the kids toys before getting in the car. Then it's RACE time.

Shut up and take my money. M3 please.
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      12-11-2013, 08:52 PM   #74
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But his point is that he wanted more involvement I'm assuming, so that was my answer. If you have bad weather, man up and ask the car for as much help as possible (that's what I do in snow) Comfort mode and full traction support
I agree with you but this is a poor solution. No one is going to drive with DSC/DTC disabled in wet weather/snow (unless you like to live dangerously), so that would mean no heel/toe shifting which ultimately means we can only heel/toe when the weather is nice? That's going to rub people the wrong way unless you could configure the settings which I doubt.
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      12-11-2013, 08:54 PM   #75
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      12-11-2013, 08:55 PM   #76
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      12-11-2013, 08:55 PM   #77
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looks GREAT… and prob the best thing i have read all day - 0-60 MPH: 4.1 seconds (manual)"

Manual transmission being offered !
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      12-11-2013, 08:59 PM   #78
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      12-11-2013, 09:08 PM   #79
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looks GREAT… and prob the best thing i have read all day - 0-60 MPH: 4.1 seconds (manual)"

Manual transmission being offered !
This is not news.
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      12-11-2013, 09:09 PM   #80
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The M3 has definite hints of the 2007 Audi RS4 from certain angles with it's pumped fenders. A very good look indeed.
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      12-11-2013, 09:09 PM   #81
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This is not news.
It is for him.
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      12-11-2013, 09:10 PM   #82
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BMW can put full leather in an M3, but Audi can't do it on an RS7. Shame on Ingolstadt.

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      12-11-2013, 09:11 PM   #83
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Tons o' torque! That 3.9 figure is most likely conservative. Wait until MT and C&D gets a hold of these beasts. I'm predicting mid 3's and 12 flat in the 1/4 pulling 1.1 g on the pad.
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      12-11-2013, 09:15 PM   #84
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This is epic!!! I cannot wait. Love the Yas Marina blue M3!

Question though, i see this car will feature 3rd gen M dct. So first gen dct is on E9x M3 and 2nd gen is on the new M5/M6?
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      12-11-2013, 09:15 PM   #85
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A while back I had predicted a 0-60 of 3.4. I still stand by this given the 3.9 is a very conservative number.

I see myself getting one of these in the 2nd year of production.
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This is epic!!! I cannot wait. Love the Yas Marina blue M3!

Question though, i see this car will feature 3rd gen M dct. So first gen dct is on E9x M3 and 2nd gen is on the new M5/M6?
I was trying find that too anyone knows?
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      12-11-2013, 09:21 PM   #87
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Methinks this will have its hands full with the ATS-V.....
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