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      02-12-2014, 09:50 AM   #1
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My biggest complaint with the m3

Hi all,

Finally saw an m3 in person yesterday at the Philly car show. First off: Yes. I will go and drive it, but for now I love it.

I went over the car to find what I truly dislike, not a little but something that actually bothers me.

There is only one thing and it may be exacerbated by color: The framing around the windows. It is glaring, it is cheap looking, and it is ugly. And I would see it everyday.

I would probably look to have these parts painted gloss black (i.e. shadowline trim) or some other treatment. They are also, currently, the type of plastic which is likely to fade and not look great in a few years.

Other than that, my only other complaint is the gauges - and that's just an f30 thing. They just aren't sexy or exciting.

Personally, the other areas people have complained about are fine with me. The hood, the tail lights....and that interior is finally an interior worthy of a 3-series.

Just thought I'd share this complaint and see if anyone has ideas for treatments.
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Hi all,

Finally saw an m3 in person yesterday at the Philly car show. First off: Yes. I will go and drive it, but for now I love it.

I went over the car to find what I truly dislike, not a little but something that actually bothers me.

There is only one thing and it may be exacerbated by color: The framing around the windows. It is glaring, it is cheap looking, and it is ugly. And I would see it everyday.

I would probably look to have these parts painted gloss black (i.e. shadowline trim) or some other treatment. They are also, currently, the type of plastic which is likely to fade and not look great in a few years.

Other than that, my only other complaint is the gauges - and that's just an f30 thing. They just aren't sexy or exciting.

Personally, the other areas people have complained about are fine with me. The hood, the tail lights....and that interior is finally an interior worthy of a 3-series.

Just thought I'd share this complaint and see if anyone has ideas for treatments.
Don't worry about that plastic stuff, that is european spec, the US spec will be gloss black like the current M3. So now you can be happy
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I just pointed this out the other day in one of the other threads... I was shocked. I thought it was standard on the E90 M3. Sad to see the same nasty cheap trim that's on a $30k 320i on a $70k M3. If this is really not some sort of preproduction build glitch and is really the way the cars will be delivered the only options are replacing the trim around the windows and the side mirrors with Shadowline parts or somehow having them painted gloss black.
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Don't worry about that plastic stuff, that is european spec, the US spec will be gloss black like the current M3. So now you can be happy
Is this confirmed? The cars were US spec in terms of bumpers w/ reflectors, MPH speedos, etc. But had no Shadowline trim.
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If the U.S. is getting gloss black treatment in the final trim, I was be extremely pleased. This was a serious visual flaw to me and not something I felt I'd come to accept - but something I thought would bother me everyday. Like a dent in the driver's side door.

It wouldn't prevent me from owning the car.
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I agree with your dislike of the gauges. Completely uninspiring.
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Hi all,

Finally saw an m3 in person yesterday at the Philly car show. First off: Yes. I will go and drive it, but for now I love it.

I went over the car to find what I truly dislike, not a little but something that actually bothers me.

There is only one thing and it may be exacerbated by color: The framing around the windows. It is glaring, it is cheap looking, and it is ugly. And I would see it everyday.

I would probably look to have these parts painted gloss black (i.e. shadowline trim) or some other treatment. They are also, currently, the type of plastic which is likely to fade and not look great in a few years.

Other than that, my only other complaint is the gauges - and that's just an f30 thing. They just aren't sexy or exciting.

Personally, the other areas people have complained about are fine with me. The hood, the tail lights....and that interior is finally an interior worthy of a 3-series.

Just thought I'd share this complaint and see if anyone has ideas for treatments.
Joe don't sweat it. I'm from Yardley PA and went to Detroit figuring Philly would not get these cars. The trim on the Detroit cars was not like this. I saw and posted exactly what you are talking about. I agree it looked cheap and talked with the useless BMW people on the floor. They know nothing compared to us. There was only one useful guy named Otto from BMW that provided me assistance in getting into the cars in Detroit and PA. I do not even see M Sport 435s with that crappy plastic treatment
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Joe

Look down under the M sport option inclusions and you'll see even those cars have shadowline trim

http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...ndOptions.aspx
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Hi all,

Finally saw an m3 in person yesterday at the Philly car show. First off: Yes. I will go and drive it, but for now I love it.

I went over the car to find what I truly dislike, not a little but something that actually bothers me.

There is only one thing and it may be exacerbated by color: The framing around the windows. It is glaring, it is cheap looking, and it is ugly. And I would see it everyday.

I would probably look to have these parts painted gloss black (i.e. shadowline trim) or some other treatment. They are also, currently, the type of plastic which is likely to fade and not look great in a few years.

Other than that, my only other complaint is the gauges - and that's just an f30 thing. They just aren't sexy or exciting.

Personally, the other areas people have complained about are fine with me. The hood, the tail lights....and that interior is finally an interior worthy of a 3-series.

Just thought I'd share this complaint and see if anyone has ideas for treatments.
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Is this confirmed? The cars were US spec in terms of bumpers w/ reflectors, MPH speedos, etc. But had no Shadowline trim.
Nothing is confirmed until the order guide arrives, but it is nearly a sure thing. Canadian cars do have High Gloss Shadowline standard, for what it is worth.
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The spec sheet for my order here in the UK clearly states Exterior trim, High-gloss Shadowline I'd be surprised if its not standard everywhere.
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In Germany is Shadowline optional. I Choose it.
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      02-12-2014, 01:28 PM   #13
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Thanks guys. I went to a car show and saw a model labeled as the new M3. I'm glad to here that is one detail that won't be joining us or will at least be optional
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I totally agree and really didn't notice it until I saw the black sedan pics! Shadowline has traditionally always been glossy...the matte will look terrible after a waxing...

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Hi all,

Finally saw an m3 in person yesterday at the Philly car show. First off: Yes. I will go and drive it, but for now I love it.

I went over the car to find what I truly dislike, not a little but something that actually bothers me.

There is only one thing and it may be exacerbated by color: The framing around the windows. It is glaring, it is cheap looking, and it is ugly. And I would see it everyday.

I would probably look to have these parts painted gloss black (i.e. shadowline trim) or some other treatment. They are also, currently, the type of plastic which is likely to fade and not look great in a few years.

Other than that, my only other complaint is the gauges - and that's just an f30 thing. They just aren't sexy or exciting.

Personally, the other areas people have complained about are fine with me. The hood, the tail lights....and that interior is finally an interior worthy of a 3-series.

Just thought I'd share this complaint and see if anyone has ideas for treatments.
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Don't worry about that plastic stuff, that is european spec, the US spec will be gloss black like the current M3. So now you can be happy
Oh, I didn't see this post...nevermind then!
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I like clear, precise, simple gauges. I haven't seen the f8x gauges in real life yet, but I assume I wouldn't want them any other way.
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I like clear, precise, simple gauges. I haven't seen the f8x gauges in real life yet, but I assume I would'nt want them any other way.
I think the new gauges are better than the current gauges that the E9X has. I wasnt particularly fond of the current gauges.
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So OP, you're into buying an M3, and the only complaint you have is that the windows frame color / shininess is not to your liking?


Jeez. That's not a 1st world problem, that's a zero world problem.
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Well sir, I haven't driven it yet and I have other minor complaints. The interior could be a bit more swaddled in leather, I miss thigh extensions on the seats, etc.

But what I said is that the only MAJOR complaint I had after seeing it in person was the window trim. It was a "I couldn't live with this or get used to it" moment when I saw it. Not a deal breaker, just something that was so glaringly bad I decided to share my reaction to it.

There's plenty of other niggles, but really the ultimate determiner is the DRIVE.
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I think the new gauges are better than the current gauges that the E9X has. I wasnt particularly fond of the current gauges.
I agree they are a bit boring on the e92 M. But I like that they were at least completely different from the standard e92 cars
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I agree they are a bit boring on the e92 M. But I like that they were at least completely different from the standard e92 cars
*Raise hand*


I'd like to argue that there is as much difference between the F3X and the F8X as there was between an E9X ///M and non-///M car. In fact, based on photo comparisons, the E9X M and non-///M clusters look more similar than dissimilar. Allow me to play the picture game with you jbockrd.


F30:




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E9X non-//M:

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The spec sheet for my order here in the UK clearly states Exterior trim, High-gloss Shadowline I'd be surprised if its not standard everywhere.
I received this price M3/M4 price list and spec sheet from my dealer over 3 weeks ago.

This is UK only.

http://www.redoak.co.uk/images/m3pricelist.pdf
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