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      12-23-2013, 08:50 AM   #177
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Yes, that's probably correct. 1 sec is the gap. And 1 second @ 150 MPH is roughly a gap of 66 metres, so it visually is a HUGE gap.

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You seriously need to stay away from the math and physics arguments here. You keep saying 66m "gap" as though one car traveling is 150mph and the other car is static for a single second which creates this 66m gap. That is just plain incorrect. Some famous physicist, I can't remember his name right now, once said, "it's all relative!" You absolutely have nothing to support your claim of 1sec difference 0-150 between the E46/E92. It's simply delusional to think that it's only 1sec 150mph.

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Car & Driver has a significantly quicker 0-150MPH E46 M3 time posted here:

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...take-road-test

With the "auto" option the 0-150MPH is done in 27,8s, just 3,2 seconds slower than the E9x M3...

One more data sheet for the E46 M3 from C&D:

http://media.caranddriver.com/files/2001-bmw-m3.pdf

Compare the 0-100MPH time with the E9x (also from C&D) here:

http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...tory-final.pdf

E46 M3: 0-100MPH 11,2 sec, 1/4-mile: 13,1 sec
E9x M3: 0-100MPH 10,4 sec, 1/4-mile: 12,9 sec


So it seems your article compares C&D's best E90 time with their worst E46 time...

In reality there is (according to C&D test data):

Only 0,2 sec in the 1/4-mile
Only 0,8 sec in the 0-100MPH time
Only 1,7s to 3,2s gap in the 0-150MPH time



Will be interesting to see how much the F8x is able to improve on the E9x times Let's wait and see if the "decimation" will be on the same level as between E46 and E9x, or perhaps even more noticeable than between those two generations
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First I'll address the auto vs. manual test you reference. I think you might have misread that. The "auto" is slower than the 6mt. This particular test has been heavily debated, because both the SMG and 6mt cars make it to 130mph within 0.7 seconds of each other but the gap from 130-150 increase to 4.7sec in favor of the 6mt? Just doesn't add up.

Second, not sure why you are bringing in 0-60 and 0-100 data to make your argument to me. There are many cars that are fast to 60, some to 100, but stretch it out to 150 and it really starts to separate cars from the rest of the pack. My whole premise and original point/post was every generation the performance gain gap got bigger from the previous generation, with the M4 we will definitely see substantial gains but nothing like what we saw with the E46-E92.
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