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      01-19-2014, 03:45 PM   #324
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Originally Posted by bruce.augenstein@comcast. View Post
I have no evidence to the contrary, except for BMW marketing's persistent historical penchant for understating M3 weights before the cars actually are available.

I remain convinced that the cars will be heavier than "advertised" when real vehicles are available to be weighed by interested third parties.

Would love to be wrong.

Bruce
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Originally Posted by Kadema View Post
Official weight is known already. "Leergewicht EU" is with all fluids (90% fuel that is), 75kg (165lbs) driver and cargo. 1572kg is 3466lbs, that's 3301lbs with all fluids, no driver, steel brakes. That's not marketing or rumour, but official (legal) numbers. US official numbers might be slightly higher due to 100% fuel and better standard equipment.
There is a sticky on curb weights that details the differences between DIN, EU and US weights.

Remember that EU and DIN weights are without any optional equipment (so if electric windows, AC, sunroof, stereo etc are optional, then those are not included in EU or DIN weights).

So if Your car is heavier than the official figures, that isn't because BMW has provided wrong numbers, but because you have added equipment not included in the official spec.

In EU the curb weights are also established during type approval by a independent organisation (usually TÜV) by actually weighing the car (and subtracting weight of any optional equipment that may have been added on the test vehicle). So the curb weight number has been achieved on a real car
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