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Originally Posted by ozinaldo
This is not the whole truth and it is misleading. You obviously have no real idea of what 1M is capable of. At least, if you check reliable dyno charts of both cars and listen to people who actually own both you will see that from idle to around 6200 rpm a stock 1M not only produces more torque but also more hp than a stock E9X M3. This fact combined with its lower weight results in a noticeably quicker car in every condition other than a drag race on a very long straight, where the M3 will catch and pass but only after 1Ms third gear ends which is around 180 km/h, not before. After that point M3 pulls away slowly due to higher top end power and better aeordynamics.
So in order to own a 1M the M3 has to be in a very high rpm point while the 1M should be either very low down or too high up. Only a moron would drive the 1M like that.
And we are not even talking about in-gear acceleration which is imo more important than any other performance category unless you reside around Autobahn. There, we can't even make a comparison, whole different level.
I would say it is the opposite of what you say; the 1M has to be in a wrong gear, a very wrong one to stay behind a M3 (which in turn has to stay over 6500, even 7000 rpm all the time in order to have some advantage), I mean anywhere but on a track with long straights and German highways.
And before you flame me, I love the M3, E46 more than E92 yes but E92 too. And the engine is wonderful as long as you know what it is and what it is not.
The new M3 will not be following solely the high revving NA tradition of past and actual M3s, it will also further what some new cars like the 1M brought on the sports car scene and that is not a bad thing...as long as they do it right, if they keep the sports car feel, for this I would be more suspicious about the size and luxury of next M3 than its turbo engine. I can even speculate that the limited edition short lived and controversial 1M story is all about giving us a pre-production test case for the following M cars. An experiment if I could call it like that. If next M3 will be a better 1M in essence it will be a very good car indeed.
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Yes, I agree with you that 1M is faster in all those situations than M3, mostly because it is 300lb lighter and because engine is underrated.
If the engine was truly rated at its advertised number it DOES NOT make more torque than M3. In reality 1m is 380hp stock. Calculate the total area under the torque curve. Despite having higher peak than M3, it is not as flat and overal torque is higher on M3. 335i people tend to repeat themselves how there is 300ft.lb from 1400-5000. Well, my question how much is there from 5000-8400rpm? Oh, wait N54 doesn't go that far. RPM range is the same, one is just down low and one is up high. On N54 Torque falls on it's nose from 5-7k and turbo is blowing hot air. I drive one everyday...and even though I am critical of my car it certainly makes a pleasant and economica daily driver. M3 is overkill for daily driver and 6mpg differene on the highway is A LOT.