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      09-24-2013, 02:14 PM   #319
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Originally Posted by Wolfinwolfsclothing View Post
LOL, e9x m3 is nowhere close to a 114 trap speed car. 112 yes FROM MAGS, not real world. Ive never seen a time slip for any trapping those speeds.

How about an actual owner!

Time slip of an actual owner, 120 mph
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...3&postcount=31

Mag times are only good when they compare two cars side by side, same day, same conditions. Show me an e9x m3 from a drag strip with anywhere close to what mags say...you wont. Show me a time slip of an m4 when it comes out that is 120 mph like the 991S...wont happen.

Think about this, head to head, same day, the 991S was faster in both ET and trap speed vs a C7 Stingray. That say a lot given the 991S is down 60 hp and like 100 lb/ft tq. The m3 will obviously be heavier than both those cars too and wont put down 120 mph trap speeds.

The 991S is FASTER than a 997.1 GT3. The M3/4 will be lucky if it can keep up with that kind of straight line acceleration.
Due to the uncertainties of individual owners vehicles and their drag efforts I trust magazine results more so than individual ones. Its like dynos - you can easily find a 15% variation among identical cars. Also the trap you posted was 119 (rounding down of course as one would do with 119.4) not 120 and I have never seen a magazine get that fast of a trap. The best result for the E92 M3 I've seen from a magazine is 115 (link to large M3 performance "database" here). I think the new car (assuming current best knowledge of power and weight and of course some underrating) should be in the 117-119 range. In short, as I posted earlier, based both on power to weight and physics based simulation results, I believe the new M4 will be very close to the 991S in a straight line. It will definitely be harder to launch and launch consistently though due to the favorable weight bias in the Porsche.
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