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      12-21-2019, 08:24 AM   #5066

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Originally Posted by adc100 View Post
I agree he does dumb despicable stuff. And I totally get that some hate him.

But many of us can hate the man and still be happy what he has done for the country. Thats the problem with many many libs. They don't seem to be able to reason objectively.
I get that. I hate him and sometimes he does things that I like and I credit him for that. Credit where it is due for better or for worse.

My biggest beef with Trump is his willingness to let special interests run portions of the government in ways that are completely corrupt and run opposite to the stated mission of that agency. The cabinet picks have been absolutely abysmal. Most of the people that ran against him in his primary have either been put into roles where they have no clue what they are doing, know what they are doing and it is the opposite of the mission, or used nominations and then publicly humiliated them with it.

Honestly, what he did to Chris Christie and Mittens Romney was pretty damn funny and humiliating. I guess points to Trump on that one.

The anti science stance disgusts me though. Pandering to religious groups while shunning science is probably the thing that repulses me the most about modern conservatism.

Maybe now that the house is done with impeachment we will actual get some work done in Washington. I am perfectly fine with the senate acquitting him as that is the way the power is. I do want to hear from Mulvaney, Bolton, and I have no idea how Rick Perry has weasled his way out of the discussion. I am perfectly fine with putting Biden, Biden, and Schiff on the stand in exchange for the three I listed.

As far as the whistleblower, leave him out of it. No need to get this guy killed by a nutjob for speaking out in the proper fashion according to US laws.