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      06-19-2013, 02:06 AM   #27
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Originally Posted by Tacoma View Post
Agreed but the GT-R is even better than that. Your information is old. The 2013 GT-R did Nurburgring in 7:18.60. The only cars that have beaten it are: two Radicals (6:48.00 and 6:55.00), the Gumpert Apollo Sport (7:11.57), the Dodge Viper ACR (7:12.13), the Porsche 918 Spyder (7:14.00), the Lexus LFA Nurburgring Edition (7:14.64), the Donkervoort D8 RS (7:14.89) and Porsche 911 GT2 RS (7:18.00). That's it. This is extreme company.

As you can see, a lot of these are practically racing cars or supercars. The M3/M4 is premium indeed but isn't close to being in this super league.

However, this isn't about the GT-R, so on topic, I'm sure the M3 will look aggressive and perform better than the E90/92 M3, but if they can keep the weight to 3300lbs or less, that will catch my attention. Also good to know they'll continue to offer the manual gearbox.
Thank you for pointing out the fastest GT-R ring time, it seems that even wikipedia updaters can not keep up.
To discuss expectations for the M4/M3 comparing it to the E92 isn't enough.
It is a given that it will/has to be incrementally faster. But if Bmw did their work well, as Porsche has in its latest 2014 GT3 edition. They must have reversed engineered the GT-R to pieces to design the M4. The GT3 now has the dynamic control on all 4 wheels (only 2 wheels on previous GT3) same as the GT-R did in 2008. It has only the PDK option and they've added back wheel steering to the equation. If they follow the same recipe for the turbo version then watch out GT-R. Without 4 wheel traction control the M4 would have to be impossibly lighter to still be a believable contender in that league.