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      07-25-2019, 06:12 AM   #4
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Drives: '20 F82 M4 '23 G05 x40i MSport
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Location: Helena, MT/Albany, NY

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There are a lot of used F80's. Many more to come too. I downloaded the kelly blue book app. This will give you an idea (you plug in your zip code) of what they are trading for, selling for privately and on dealer lots.

I was in the car business for 9 months 20 years ago. We were told what the dealer owns the car for and were allowed to mark up accordingly. Some of those cars we marked up 10k!!! I think you can use Kelly as a guide. Then hit them lower. You may also be able to get a feel for how long they've owned it by talking with the non-sales people in the dealership. The longer they've had it, the more room you might have in negotiations.

BMW's lease tremendously well. In fact an Audi salesman (when I looked at an RS5) told me that if I was leasing, that BMW is the way to go because in his words, "they are a lease brand", and that "BMW subsidises their leases".

For whatever that's worth.
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