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      11-13-2014, 04:12 PM   #17
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Originally Posted by bmoneystatus View Post
I was thinking about doing this same trip, similar route this time next year. More specifically October 7-21.

Do you know when they start requiring winter tires?

Also, I've heard they start closing down palaces, tourist stops, roads in the third week of October. Did you find this to be the case?

Any tips or advice would be great!
Most countries don't actually "require" winter tires. The only ones that do are Austria and Amsterdam (I think). However, if you're involved with an incident in most countries without M+S (all weather tires), you're likely to be held at fault. Their definitions of "Winter" also vary, but generally are understood to be mid-October to mid-April.

Aside from all of that, I was glad as hell I had them on the trip from Venice to Zurich. It ranged from sheet rain to full on snowing. Very treacherous conditions.

As far as everything closing down, yes, I found this to be the case as well. I had planned to hit Gro▀glockner, Stelvio Pass, Gotthard Pass, Susten Pass and Grimsel Pass. Not a single one was open, and Gro▀glockner wasn't even raining (the others, I probably wouldn't even have attempted if they were, due to the terrible weather). Further, the Nurburgring Norschleiffe is on a severely limited schedule, only being open 3 days a week (Friday from 1:30 to 4:30 and Sat and Sun all day). Of course, this is only if the weather isn't bad and if no one crashes. I'm planning on heading there tomorrow, and while I'd love to do even one run, there's a 30% chance of rain, so I'm not expecting too much. Truly my only regret is coming here past the token "Winter deadline".

That said, the changing to Fall is stunning, so if you can do a late Sep/early Oct trip, I'd totally recommend it. And hey: Oktoberfest!
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