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      12-21-2013, 12:38 PM   #131
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Originally Posted by Mr.Metak2you View Post
So you're using F10 M5 1-1000m data and assuming the F82 M3 will be the same? Also, that E46 time doesn't seem right. Since OP was full of "decimation" predictions I merely asked him maybe share his thoughts on the 0-150mph comparison. Again.....

E46 M3 0-150mph: 34.5sec
http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...e-conflict.pdf

E92 M3 0-150mph: 24.6sec
http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...10-comparo.pdf

F82 M3 0-150mph: ???

The leap in performance from E30-E36-E46-E92 was significant each generation. My point is this 0-150mpg metric is probably not going to be as significant with the F82. Certainly not the 8-11sec improvement we saw between the E46 and E92.
Car & Driver has a significantly quicker 0-150MPH E46 M3 time posted here:

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...take-road-test

With the "auto" option the 0-150MPH is done in 27,8s, just 3,2 seconds slower than the E9x M3...

One more data sheet for the E46 M3 from C&D:

http://media.caranddriver.com/files/2001-bmw-m3.pdf

Compare the 0-100MPH time with the E9x (also from C&D) here:

http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...tory-final.pdf

E46 M3: 0-100MPH 11,2 sec, 1/4-mile: 13,1 sec
E9x M3: 0-100MPH 10,4 sec, 1/4-mile: 12,9 sec




And in this data sheet from C&D the E9x M3 has a 0-150MPH time of 26,1 seconds.... A mere 1,7 seconds quicker than the E46 M3...

http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...final-test.pdf

So it seems your article compares C&D's best E90 time with their worst E46 time...



In reality there is (according to C&D test data):

Only 0,2 sec in the 1/4-mile
Only 0,8 sec in the 0-100MPH time
Only 1,7s to 3,2s gap in the 0-150MPH time



Will be interesting to see how much the F8x is able to improve on the E9x times Let's wait and see if the "decimation" will be on the same level as between E46 and E9x, or perhaps even more noticeable than between those two generations



BTW, the 991 Carrera S has the exact same power to weight ratio of 279hp/tonne as the M4. Performance should be comparable and here is a "teaser" of the Porsche's numbers:


0 - 40 kph 1.2 s

0 - 50 kph 1.5 s

0 - 80 kph 2.8 s

0 - 100 kph 3.8 s

0 - 180 kph 10.6 s

0 - 200 kph 13.2 s

0 - 60 mph 3.5 s

0 - 100 mph 8.4 s

0 - 150 mph 21.7 s

1000 m 21.7 s @ 242 kph

1/4 mile 11.8 s @ 119 mph


http://fastestlaps.com/cars/porsche_991_carrera_s.html

Last edited by Boss330; 12-21-2013 at 05:38 PM..
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