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Originally Posted by pkim1079
If you understand the context, this has nothing to do with beating its competitors but rather staying true to its motorsports heritage.
There is NO place for an suv to be classified as "motorsport". Id rather have a freaking raptor which will tear these suvs apart on the road and in extreme environments.
Thats what he means. And yes we can blame other companies by doing this first. Bmw has to compete and show and be in this segment to do so.
But then again you dont see any panamera / cayenne / hell even cayman GT3 versions.
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To many in the Porsche community, all the cars you mentioned (possibly except Cayman) are a herecy to the brand. Just the fact that Porsche builds a SUV... After all it's a sports car company, unlike BMW...
Of course a SUV can be classified as MOTORSPORT. Haven't you seen Paris-Dakar and plenty of other off road racing/rally series?
I believe we have two camps of M enthusiasts here:
1. Those that feel it's only the original M models (M3/M5) that are worthy
2. Those that feel that all/most models coming from M GmbH are worthy
The first group talks about motorsport heritage, DTM, pure driving experiences and no dillution of the brand.
The second group talks about the ethos of the M brand. Creating faster cars from the BMW line of production cars.
Then there is a third group that thinks the M cars should be compared with dedicated sports cars like the 911, 458 etc, designed with only that purppse in mind unlike a basic 3 series BMW...
And finally the fourth group that just looks at HP and compares it with any car that has more power (but possibly weighs twice as much)... The F8X M3 will be the most powerful M3 so far, but still the OP feels that a M car should have "over 500hp"... So, even with lighter weight and more power than the previous gen M3, it's going the wrong way???