Thread: S55 vs. S65
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      06-20-2014, 12:46 PM   #645
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Originally Posted by M3guy3 View Post
You can have a N/A engine that has low end torque. look at the C63 AMG or corvettes. They get the great sounding, low end power and more responsive engines. It just takes a big N/A engine to make good power at every RPM.

My biggest problem with these new trubo engines is the sound, or lack there off. The screaming sound of the S65 with a aftermarket exhaust is half the reason i wanted one. I put up with the lack of low end power to have a 8400RPM engine that sounds pretty sick.

i would say there are more people like you than me. Most just want the power.
Boring sound is A problem, but isn't the biggest problem.

Lag is #1.

Aesthetics is #2. Boring sound, low revs, not in any important way a special engine.

I think it's thrilling to run a V8 to 8400rpm. But even at lower rpm the S65 sounds magnificent.

In fact, on the street, anything E46 M3 on up is plenty fast. More power is almost exclusively useful on the track. That's where lag and abrupt power delivery is least tolerable. It's in spite of these flaws that the new engines power makes the car faster.

For me, 2/3 of my M3 miles are street, 1/3 are track. On the street I don't have to be breaking the law or driving crazy to get huge enjoyment from the S65. All I have to do is press the throttle and listen. Maybe drop it down a few gears. If there's no "special" aspect to the engine, then it's just a powerplant and really nothing better than a 335 on the street.

That ALWAYS special quality of these bespoke old M3 engines is a fantastic quality of life issue that is WHOLLY missing from the new ones.
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